and the knicks, basically, you know, it's a gritty team, as you know and you were watching the game last night do you have a final trade, guy yes, i do. pan american silver. as thank you for watching "ft. "mad money" starts right now. ". "mad money" starts right now my mission is simple to make you money. i'm here to level the playing field for all investors. there's always a bull market somewhere, and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money. welcome to cramerica other people want to make friends. i'm just trying to make you a little money my job is not just to entertain but to explain so call me at 1-800-743-cnbc or tweet me @jimcramer even on a geedecent day like to when the dow gained 331 points,

nasdaq climbed, s&p .51% i'm sure you have some stocks. maybe moving into something a little more placid like the industrials. at back my old hedge fund we reviewed our positions three times a day. that's right every day. three times a day i'd have to defend them to karen cramer, our head trader. if my enthusiasm flagged at all, if there was a negative news story, a downgrade, a price target cut, or even if the stock was just heavy where sellers didn't seem to care what prices they sold their stock at, she'd deem it vulnerable and kick it out. whether i liked it or not. >> sell sell sell sell sell! >> it was brutal but necessary. we had to contain our losses they were looking over our shoulders. and when it came to dead money forget about it. she'd say let's boot it and come back at a better time, there are other stocks to own that can

win. you see this attitude a lot from people that come on our network, don't you? they're running money aggressively they can vacillate constantly i did the same thing at my hedge fund it served me well. but that's not how we run the charitable trust the one you can follow if you belong like so many of our callers to the cnbc investing club it's not that you should manage your money at home you have other things to do. you have no need to trade in and out of positions like crazy because you don't have any investors looking over your shoulder criticizing your every move you can afford to find companies you believe in and stick with them as long as the facts don't fall apart in you. that does require faith in the management and underlying business because invariably your stocks will go down and you'll want to give up on them because of the pain. >> the house of pain >> but that's usually a mistake when you're not running money professionally stocks sell off for all kinds of reasons and it's difficult to swap back into the good ones before they rebound. as long as the thesis hasn't changed you nuft resist the

desire to give up on your favorite stocks no matter what you hear from the billionaire class and hedge fund mrngz who want to cut their losses because they can't spare a spot on their portfolio sheets for what feels like a do-nothing stock. which brings me to the most talked about stocks of the current era. nvidia, apple, apple and tesla remember them? four companies with riveting stories and temperamental stocks i like the first three, not so much the fourth. let me start with nvidia bear with me hardly an hour goes by without some portfolio manager, some analyst who trimmed or dumped their nvidia positions why? because it's too high. sometimes i wonder if they even know what nvidia makes everyone agrees the stock has moved up a great deal. many have sold it and bought it back repeatedly. that's great i believe you should just own nvidia, not trade it, because i've come to believe in the ceo, jen jensen huang i like their business. i believe him when he says we're on the cusp of a new industrial revolution and the ai revolution

will be powered by towers of nvidia's chips which happen to run at blazing speeds. i can see them selling trlds of dollars of these chips because they give you everything you need for what's known as accelerated computing. and that's why we own nvidia forever for the charitable trust. of course we check our thesis constantly this morning i interviewed renee haas, ceo of arm holdings, close partner of nvidia and point blank asked him if he believed in the new industrial revolution he does. maybe he's just talking his book everybody does it. maybe i'm wrong about jensen and rene but i have a degree of faith in nvidia and anyone that's believed in this stock has indeed made fortunes i will ask jay sriulal the ceo of arista about her condition later in the show. that's a winning stock too of course the stock of nvidia acts heavy it peaked in march that was about 90 points ago shu have given up on the thing should you give up on it now what if i told you that nvidia stock did absolutely nothing last july through december of last year because it was

digesting a huge move then and the market temporarily turned hostile? what if i said that's typical of the way the stock trades frankly in this tape you shouldn't expect much of nvidia when it reports in a little less than two weeks if you can't handle the fact it periodically goes in and out of style, if you're not cut out for individual stock picking, that's okay most aren't. how about apple? this has been a stock for ages and the last few months have been one of the rougher rides i've experienced be only did you have to endure the endless reports that apple's china business kept getting worse, reports that turned out to be false, you also had to hold on to multiple downgrades and price cuts and oh my -- >> sell sell sell sell sell! >> all based on declining phone sales and the possibility of a cut to the full-year forecast. instead when apple reported you got a better than feared result for handset sales and a strong forecast for the current quarter. the opposite of what everybody said -- well, many people said could happen now, if you had faith in apple the solid quarter was not a

surprise but few did. at times i thought i was the only one or the stock wouldn't have record like that after earnings. we have the worldwide developers conference in june and the next phone in the fall, which could be chock full of ai and therefore a must upgrade for you and for me i like those odds. again, the toughest course of action just owning apple and holding it tight turned out to be the best move as it almost always is with the leadership of tim cook amazon's been difficult because there are so many moving parts any one of which can k. sink the stock. prime, web services, delivery costs. now, you may not realize but every single metric that's improved markedly. markedly in the last year especially time of delivery. because amazon's worked hard to change routes. so you can get everything at -- well, i'd say a lot of stuff same day by the way, web services really thriving too, and that's where the money is that was declining, declining, declining now it's shooting all the way back we tend to yawn at these

accomplishments. but the fact that all these moving parts came together feels downright miraculous to me but it's actually not a miracle. it just happens to be great management now, finally there's tesla this stock doesn't fit the pattern of the other three first tesla's sales are going down not up. secondly the estimates are going down not up. third the stock's super expensive for a car or a tech company. four prominent execs seem to be jumping ships pretty constantly. fifth the bloom is off the electric rose in this country at least for now. sixth i tire of hearing about elon musk's robo taxi. maybe one day it will be a savior but america isn't set up china's going to do it they're going to do it cheaper and homegrown. now, i know musk is entertaining i know he's a visionary. i'll even stipulate if he's wrong about the technology it's just that he's too ahead of his time doesn't matter to me tesla doesn't pass the test the others do the facts aren't on our side it's very hard to be having faith in this one or the man here's the bottom line you need to think about these kinds of challenges before you buy any stock, and most certainly before you sell any

stock. you don't need to swap in and out of stocks constantly like a hedge fund manager you just need to figure out which companies deserve your confidence, and you stick with them let's go to betsy in connecticut. betsy! >> caller: boo-yah, jim! >> whoa. boo-yah, betsy what's happening >> caller: i love your show. >> thank you thank you very much. >> caller: so i'm calling about boston properties. the stock has taken a real beating these past five years. i'm tempted to get in now. but the commercial real estate market is facing lots of headwinds, particularly office buildings in large cities. do you think there's a buying opportunity now? >> i think -- first of all, thank you for your confidence. i think you'd be reaching for yield. that's something i learned when i was at goldman sachs you never do i literally think -- and the stock has had a move here. but i literally think that what's happening is people want a good dividend and i want a

safe dividend. stick with the show. i think you'll hear three of them you'll like very much let's go to omar in new york omar >> caller: hey, jim. long-time fan. thanks for having me >> thank you for calling >> caller: doordash -- no worries. as of late doordash has been trading below $120 and uber and instacart have recently announced they're preparing a joint effort to take market share away from the fast food delivery giant as an investor is there any cause for concern regarding doordash's future outlook? >> okay, look, it's an expensive stock you about i believe in tony shu i have believed in tony shu when it was private and when i owned restaurants. and i think he's doing a terrific job i actually like the quarter. i think people were way too quick to say it wasn't great they i think will be judged harshly. let's go to bill in massachusetts. bill >> caller: boo-yah, jim bo >> boo-yah, bill what's up? >> caller: about six months ago we talked on the show about

vertiv holdings and it has doubled since then >> yes good boy, that one >> caller: thank you >> go ahead. >> caller: jim >> yeah, you're with me. go ahead >> caller: what do you think vertiv's going to do at this point? should i pick up some more here's what you do after a 100% move you can't buy more what you have to do is you want to trim some i would take 20% off i want to make it so you play with more of the house's money than you're doing. and by the way, i think the world of vertiv and have and everyone knows that because dave cody's the chairman i've been backing dave ever since he decided to kind of take it over. and we caught about an 80-point gain never shabby you don't need to operate your portfolio like a hedge fund manager. just figure out which companies deserve your confidence and then stick with them. on "mad" tonight how is ai spending impacting one horse of the stock arista networks? i'm sitting down with the ceo after its post-earnings rise

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action in the stock market the demand for infrastructure that can power artificial intelligence never really went away take arista networks that's increasingly essential if you want tons of computing power for ai among other things. tuesday night arista reported a strong top and bottom line beat with management raising their full-year rev forecast which allowed the stock to jump 6.5% yesterday and a bit more today as it should the only problem the stock's up 25% for the year that's a high quality problem. can it keep running? let's check in with the chair, sxrnt ceo of arista networks to get a better read of the quarter. welcome back to "mad money." >> good to hear from you, jim. it's been a while. >> way too long. you did it again reported a monster quarter i know there are other people in the networking business who are telling me there's just not a lot of business going on which made me think that you're getting all the business because wow, what a quarter. >> thank you, jim. i have to thank our wonderful

products technology engineers and most of all our customers for choosing us. >> let's talk about the fact you have basically not just ethernet, some people would say dumb switches, they were never dumb, but you're working on a network as a service that can use all the knowledge that you have and really help companies beyond just anecdotal. i mean, you've got a great empirical set of data that works terrifically for artificial intelligence >> absolutely. i think over the last 15 years, jim, we've created this operating system called the u.s. and we've built into it a network data link architecture that enables a tremendous number of overlays for zero touch auto automation, security, observability, and especially for this new wave of artificial intelligence and that's really coming in as a strong offering so that customers can not only build a great foundation but also overlay the right software characteristics on top of that >> i really like the line that you had in your conference call where you talked about the key is observability, which i know

because the cybersecurity in many of the companies we deal with are so concerned that we say we cannot secure what he with cannot see. the other guys don't really offer that option, do they >> not really. it's very difficult to see if you're not smack bang in the middle of the network where you're connecting to everything from users, i.o.t., applications, you know, ai infrastructure, et cetera. so we're in an ideal position to look at all the telemetry and observe everything and then take action on it so i think the network position is a pivotal point and a critical junction for that >> i want to step back for a second for people who aren't that familiar with what you do other than make a huge amount of money for people if we did not have arista, what would happen with all the great gpus that we're reading about? what would happen with blackwell? what would happen with the current iteration of what nvidia's doing >> i think -- let me take you back ten years when you and i first met. you almost asked me the same question then.

at that time we were powering the cloud. and as we talked, you know, it was satya's azure and all the cloud networking that we powered. and that gives us a second chance to do this with ai. what nvidia's doing is now bringing these massive training workloads and a billion parameters across gpus they cost often billions of dollars. so any kind of idle state and 30% down time costs them money so without a good network you can't have that utilization. and that's exactly where arista comes in we're building the absolute best of breed foundation for ai networking to make those gpus hum and ignite better. >> look, i am all in but i also am cognizant, as you know, that i believe in jensen greatly. and he did talk on the last conference call about his own ethernet networking space. he's launching new spectrum x and an offering designed for ai optimized networking

and i started thinking, well, are you friend are you partner? are you competitor with nvidia >> i just want to say to jensen personally and of course nvidia as a company, we are first friends. the majority of his business we don't compete with at all. of course there's about 1% of his business that maybe overlapped with our business but i would hardly call 1% anything but friendship and slight overlap >> all right >> we'll compete where we have to but we're friends for most part >> people say wait a second, broadcom, which happens to be a position in my trust, are they competitors? i see them as being actually key cogs with you. i don't know, i think that might be a way to put it >> i think one of the beauties of arista's differentiation has not only been our operating system but working with merchant silicon chips. broadcom being one of the best portfolios we've seen in the industry we certainly work with all of them but we have done our most work with broadcom so again, a case of a great

partner and friend >> a lot of people care about momentum i'm more caring about value. but you give us both because you've been buying back stock, which tells me -- and of course the stock is above what you bought back. but also the visibility you had. in november i know you felt things were a little murky the view that you gave in that recent quarter made me feel like you know, you have more visibility than most companies right now in technology. >> yeah, i think i feel a little blessed. november we were kind of wondering is the cloud going to pivot to ai? does that mean they spent less on cloud and i think the entire cloud capex was still a little bit of a question mark. but today i'm most proud to say we have momentum in three sectors -- the enterprise including the campus, the specialty cloud providers who are building some of their own specialized workloads, and then of course the core cloud titans and ai titans i think our visibility's gotten good across all three and it gives us a great deal of satisfaction that we can satisfy all three markets appropriately. >> the thing i wanted to bring

up initially that i didn't, i should have, the term titan is fantastic. people tell me when it comes to you we should just be speaking about meta and microsoft and i come back and say that all the titans use you from what i can tell and that i should be using the term titan and not hyperscaler what do you think? >> well, i think you can use your term. i really love the word titan so much i normally use it for cloud. we now have a new class of ai titans coming up so whatever the term, i think the most important thing to remember is they are the most demanding customers. m&m especially i like candy but i like m&m as our customers even more. >> last thing, you just authorized a new buyback i'm sure there are some people saying wait a second, jim, you think jaysh rhee's so great, they should be building the next big thing. but you are the next big thing and you still think your stock is cheap obviously with a buyback. >> i think part of being a

growth company and being a responsible company to our shareholders is to keep providing value. one aspect of value is good results and good stock returns and the other aspect of value is to believe in our own stock. and our last buyback expired and chantal, my new cfo and myself, thought this was a perfect time to get another authorization from our board of directors. >> i think your analysis of what people should look for in a stock is sorely wanting away from you in the technology cohort it's great to see you. you stand for so much that's good for shareholders as well as for technology and great leadership that is jayshree ullal, chairman and ceo of arista network. they just bought back a ton of stock. i think you should join them "mad money's" back after the break. coming up, cramer quenches your thirst for stock. it's a battle of the beverages when "mad money" returns

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has wall street finally lost its appetite for the energy drink stocks stunning performance over the last 20 years. you think alphabet's up big from its 2004 ipo with that 7,890% gain if you bought hansen natural, which is the company that became

monster beverage at the same time, you'd now be up more than 24,000%. meanwhile, just the last four years celsius has rallied more than 4,700%. these have been incredible winners. you'd think that they're ai. i don't know, networking or something. but in march and april both monster and celsius turned ice cold along with so many other formerly beloved growth stocks monster down 15% in over a month before stabilizing in the low 50s. celsius plunged over 30% from peak to trough i was starting to lose faith here it rebounded big going into this quarter on tuesday so when we saw the actual numbers did these declines turn out to be justified? let's start with monster which has given the bears a lot of ammunition over the past year after the company last reported in late february its stock shot to a new all-time high in mid march but the fourth quarter results actually weren't that good in fact, they missed on virtually every line monster only rallied in response to the quarter for one reason. they told us their currency adjusted sales accelerated to 20% in january, which was very

impressive but after the stock peaked and rolled over and march sentiment quickly turned negative again, it reached a crescendo april 25th a week before monster's first quarter report when two analysts downgraded the stock on the same day. one even hit the one with the dreaded double downgrade buy to sell, they don't stop at hold arguing that margin expectations were too high. the stock was simply overvalued. so what happened when monster reported a week ago? you might think they proved the skeptics wrong because the stock rallied 3% the next day. but that's actually not true monster's currency adjusted sales growth came in at 15.6%. which would have been fine except everyone got excited about that 20% growth number for january. meaning there was a major decell, deceleration in february and march. monster's operating expenses were also quite a bit higher than expected and these guys missed on all the earnings lines. while monster doesn't get much formal guidance the company disclosed the currency adjusted sales group by 20.9% in april.

i didn't like that overall not good why did the stock rally in response to the quarter? first expectations were relatively low going into the quarter and the headline numbers weren't horrible even if i can't call them good either. second monster announced a modified dutch auction style buyback for up to $3 billion of its own stock. in other words they thought their stock's very undervalued which is a chunk of change for a $57 billion company. that said worth noting both co-ceos intend to sell some of their shares back to the company. by itself insider selling doesn't mean anything. but it's definitely not a positive sign. take the buyback announcement and i think monster would have sold off a lot celsius, though, is different. from mid march to late april the stock lost more than 30% of its value, which is breathtaking celsius announced an amended distribution agreement with pepsico which they already had an existing agreement with, and it says to quote -- and i'm going to quote it's a little confusing. i was confused when it came out. incentivize and compensate the

distributor for its continued focus on the end actions to support, quote end quote, celsius products nobody knew what that meant. but the analysts assumed more competition is bad news for celsius. the stock dropped 8.5% on the news as people sold first asked questions later. fast forward tuesday morning when celsius reported its first quarter results. looked like a mixed quarter. this company posted a substantial revenue miss they did under 356 million in sales when wall street was looking for 390 million. but the margins were fantastic expand bid 740 basis points year over year which turns into a seven center earnings beat off 20-cent basis i like that these guys had 100% share growth year over year. in the conference call the management said revenue hit came from i quote inventory movements end quote. so hard to understand for their large distribute pepsico which owns a stake in this long story short pepsi had a big restock in the first quarter of last year that didn't repeat this year they plan to keep its inventory

tighter this year. that's not great news especially since we don't know how long it will last but it's a legitimate explanation for the revenue shortfall and crucially it's got nothing to do with demand which is what i care about once the analysts updated their forecast to account for pepsico's planned inventory changes i bet celsius will be just fine going forward because other than that one issue business is real good. although selesus doesn't give much in the way offormal guidance management reiterate a previously stated goal of getting their four-year gross margins to the high 40s. perhaps that was disappointment because their first quarter gross margin was in the low 50s. but the ceo noted there's a conservative approach to forecasting the remainder of the year thanks to the possibility of rising costs i get that plus there were plenty of positives here celsius continues to take market share in the energy drink category reaching 11.4% by the end of the first quarter. that's up a full point, that's a lot, from the fourth quarter and four points from the same point last year. that's huge. as celsius steadily gains market share the top two players in the space red bull and monster keep losing share on top of that management sounded an optimistic tone about

the spring shelf reset season. that's something we've recently seen when we talk about constellation brands which expects to see big shelf gains for modelo this year thanks to the suss last year celsius expects big shelf gains too. possibly the best in the company's history. once you gain shelf space obviously your numbers can go higher finally celsius has just started to expand internationally. canada began in january. the uk and ireland last month. france and new zealand coming up in the fourth quarter. a sales miss and pence co.'s inventory miss coupled with management's decision not to commit to a high gross margin target for the full year led to i amodestly negative raekt reaction to celsius's quarter. stock slipping on tuesday. after looking into the quarter i'm pretty swaing about the situation. i guess so is the rest of the street come around to our view is clh shares jumped more than 6% today. i'm sure there are some people out there who must be thinking pepsico wants to buy the rest of them or something. by the way, if i were pepsico i would want to buy the rest of them too because this is a growth category. here's the bottom line monster saw a small bounce when it reported but mostly because

it also announced a big buy brac i'm not particularly impressed with the latest numbers. celsius on the other hand which is a company i've liked for a long time they've been on many times, gave us a noisy quarter that masked the true strength of the business the market's giving you credit for the result but the stock's still down 18% from its highs. i think this is a very good entry point even though i don't like it up six today you want to own companies that's taken market share like celsius not the ones losing share like monster and i've got to tell you when it comes to taste which of course there's no accounting for, count me in as a celsius drinker. annual after four cups of coffee let's go to brian in wisconsin brian. >> caller: hello, jim. how are you doing? >> i am doing fine how are you doing, champ >> caller: we're doing good. thanks for taking the call and all you do >> no problemo >> caller: my question is on conagra. they've had a lot of ups and downs and changes over the last eight, ten years wondering what your outlook is for cga. >> okay. thank you for the call now, here's what i'm going to

tell you shawn connelly's got a decent hand they're not the greatest brands. but it yields 4.5%, sells at 11 times earnings i am never going to criticize flynn for buying with those characteristics. i think you'll be fine let's go to scott in my home state of new jersey. scott. >> caller: jim cramer. i've been watching you since you started on television. >> my. and you're certainly -- you might be 70. >> caller: yes, i am >> good enough >> caller: and the wisdom that you've imparted -- >> i appreciate that >> caller: and how about those phillies, jim? >> best team in baseball thank you for mentioning it. last night lost but that's okay. we just -- they're bringing great joy to my household. let's put it that way. >> caller: they're bringing great joy to us down in margate stlant as well >> my partner in crime jeff marks goes down to marchgate all the time i used to be friends with lucy

>> caller: lucy's right around the corner from me i see it from my building here >> that happens to be a giant elephant let's not make any conclusions maybe we get to work maybe stay more focused. i'm sorry. >> caller: here we go. get to work. cvs. i've been taking a beating on my cvs stock. what do you think, jim >> i think the world of karen lynch. i think it yields 5% but they're in a very hard category they're trying to make health care work. they're trying to make the small format stores work they have to deal with the current stores and the problem against amazon it may be too much for her to handle but if she wants to come on and talk, i more than welcome her because she's cerebral and she's got a plan so that's my goal. but the jury's still out on that one. all right, guys, when it comes to the energy drink category which i care about passionately, you want to own shares of celsius. because they're gaining share. unfortunately, monster is not gaining share. and i don't know it's kind of orphaned right here much more "mad money" including a really cool piece we worked on about retail reits

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as we see more signs of a slowing economy this earnings season not to mention clear indications that the fed's taken notice last week the bond market's done what it always does at these moments. long-term treasury yields have come down. the benchmark 10-year yield has gone from 4.735 to less than 4.46% today.

this despite a huge bond auction that could have crushed the market if there weren't such voracious demand what's the playbook for when long rates are coming down thanks to a weaker economy like i mentioned last night this might be a real good moment to buy some real estate investment trusts or reits for short because they tend to have the high dividend yields making them direct competitors with the bond market when treasury yields go down these dividend reits get more attractive. reits can actually have capital appreciation not just fixed income the reits were clobbered in the first four moftz year. and the retail reits were hit particularly hard because everyone's worried the consumer's tapped out. but if reits keep going in the right direction then this could be the perfect time for you to get some retail reit exposure, providing you go with the right ones, which is why i'm going to go over the right ones first if you're worried about an overstretched consumer i want you to consider tanger that's the old tanger factory outlet stores. tanger's the chain of outlet centers with incredible

bargains we had them on the show last week as tanger ceo steven yoloff can say much better than i can just take a look >> i think what makes the shopping experience in outlet centers so exciting for the consumer is the customer's aspirational that's a customer coming in thinking maybe they can only afford a certain price point but if they're in that outlet environment all brands become accessible to them because they're on sale every day. sow might have thought that coach or kate spade or michael kors was out of reach but when you walk into that store because the sign outside says everyday pricing 40% off, all of a sudden it becomes reachable and you might have aspired to buy into that product your entire life pand now you have te opportunity to do so in our portfolio. >> we have to send the ftc chief over to one of those tanger outlets. anyway [ rimshot tanger's outlet centers still have strong traffic and retailers can't get enough of their locations. demand for space in tanger center is currently so strong

that the company had to change its strategy get this maybe put through a small rent increase but the tenant rarely got kicked out now, though, tanger's being more selective. they won't renew the lease for underperforming tenants if they can find someone better, someone whose stores can boost traffic for the rest of the outlet center that might temporarily lead to lower occupancy rates near term. but long term i think it's a really good strategy either way you know tanger's in good shape when there are practically bidding wars for these outlet spaces. that said the stock actually got hit after tanger report aid seemingly mixed quarter a little over a week ago investors focused on the slightly lower than expected occupancy rate while ignoring robust funds from operations the reit equivalent of earnings and a terrific 5.2% increased same-store sairlz net income that was nice. look, i think the quarter's really good and the stock's enticing at these levels got a nearly 4% yield here which i'm betting will get more enticing as the slow economy pushes bond yields lower this is a terrific growth story

what's next? how about good old simon property group the number one owner of higher end mall properties in america, increasingly the world simon's been written off repeatedly over the past couple decades. why? because everyone thinks the mall's dead. i know the mall ain't what it used to be but reports of its demise are wildly overstated, particularly simon properties' mall this company's done some very creative things to keep its malls breathing if not thriving. back during the pan dem whik quite a few retailers went under thanks to lockdowns simon, the landlord, partnered with authentic brands group to buy up some better brands out of bankruptcy the goal was to simply keep their tenants alive. they did it with aero postal, brooks brothers, forever 21, reebok and even jcpenney in a separate deal. they're still aund roh just last month simon did something very similar buying up express after it filed for bankruptcy that prevent td from being hit with a huge wave of vacancies. you hate going to the mall when there's all those blank spaces right? makes you feel like kind of what am i doing here? and once we came out of the pandemic these retailers came

right back turning out to be great investments. over the past few quarters simon has been opportunistically selling their stakes in these brands locking in major profits in the process these guys reported a stellar quarter on monday after the close really ood simon properties generated $3.56 in funds from operations per share up 30% year over year. wall street was only looking for $2.81. nice beat. they raised full-year funds from operations forecast substantially too. the big beat happened because simon made a bundle selling their remaining position in the authentic brands group which they got as part of the retail acquisition joint venture. and even putting that aside the core business is doing quite well better than expect occupancy rate better than expected base minimum rent for square foot not to mention same-store sales on thing net income growth. in response people realize -- sometimes people are slow to understand these companies but this time the stock rallied immediately 2.4% it's still basically trading over what 'twas last december. still simon sports a 5.4% dividend yield and they tend to raise their payout frequently. they've done it four times in the last five quarters

i would be a buyer right here. i think all systems are going for david simon's company. you want to own the stock. finally there's federal realty we had them on last night. these guys own mainly mixed use properties in wealthy suburbs along the coast. what can i say about this outfit every time i speak to ceo don wood i come away impressed and we've been speaking to him for almost 20 years. federal realty's embrace of mixed use properties means they're real estate often at the center of any given community. you don't have to worry about cash strapped lower income consumers. when it reported last thursday it was right down the middle of the fairway with in line funds from operations and a small increase to their full-year funds from operations guidance and an in-line occupancy right most encouraging federal realty reported record levels of leasing in the first quarter and they're seeing big rent increases when they sign new tenants. meanwhile the company pays you 4 sxfrk% dividend yield and this is the most consistent payer in the entire reit space. 56 consecutive years of dividend boosts how about that

that kind of dependability should own the stock a premium multiple which is why i like federal realty you want consistency and discipline federal realty is for you. let me give you the bottom line here if you believe that rates are ultimately headed lower this year and that the decline's finally begun, then you might think about buying a reit. you want reit exposure because dividend stocks are about to get more attractive. right now i think you're getting? good deals on quality retail reit merchandise like tanger where you've got all those great outlet brands including some that are trying to merge with each other and federal realty and yes, simon property. i bet any one of these is going to be good for your portfolio. they are the best in the retail reit industry. you know what? they might be the best in the entire reit business itself. "mad money's" back after the break. >> announcer: when we return, master the markets one stock at a time the "lightning round" is up next

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tennessee. >> caller: hello, jim. it's mike clement. i want your thoughts on the copper mining stocks in particular southern copper corporation. >> that is a very good company it has moved up a great deal as people realize we need more copper in data centers i would honestly like it to come down a little. i'm conscious it can still go lower before it goes higher. how about kyle in pennsylvania kyle >> caller: jimmy chill is saquon in your line-up? >> he's a leader of men. i hope he calls the plays, actually >> caller: i'm calling in regards to a company you referred to as a second-rate logitech, and that's corsair the recent acquisition of the leading racing simulator company out of germany adding an online of peripherals to their consumer discretionally line what your thoughts on this stock, $10 value

>> i think corsair is a second-rate logitech okay let's go to barry in florida barry. >> caller: hey, jim. >> yo. >> caller: hey, jim. >> yeah. bare >> caller: you with me, jim? >> are you with me, bare >> caller: i'm with you. jim, i'm a real estate broker down here in miami the market's great everything's good. my favorite reit is starwood properties trust everything looks good. but are there headwinds from this commercial lending? >> here's the problem. your namesake barry is on tv every minute telling us that this is like the worst possible market and yet he's in one of these things he has talked me -- barry's -- eagle fan, by the way. has talked me out of owning the stock. i wouldn't own it. i thought it was good. i liked the yield. i liked the guy. but he has told me jim, you shouldn't own my stock that's the way i look at it. bare, i'm sorry, i wanted to buy it but you win let's go to chuck in arizona

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if you want to know the fed's next move you need to figure out if the consumer's feeling poorer or if people are moving on from their post-pandemic behavior turning to normalcy. let me explain we tend to overlook it these days but covid changed practically everything work from home went from being xijs to acceptable alternative people put off non-urgent surgery for fear they might come down with covid. so many people held off on unnecessary procedures that the surgery room is playing catch-up but there's been nothing like what happened to travel. during the pandemic we realized life is too short. many of us went stir crazy which led to a travel boom once we got over covid expedia and booking holding put up amazing numbers airbnb's numbers roared as the cheaper alternative. it's all beginning to unwind many people are coming back to the office more than two or three days a week. we're not building new home offices anymore. the hospitals are jammed the biggest normalizatnormaliza,

though, as wall street calls it might be in travel and it's shaking investors to the core hardly a day goes by where we don't hear a report that travel is cool. today we got two first hyatt cut its forecasts going forward then airbnb shaded things down for this current quarter concerned business might not be as robust as people expected both stocks hit at the open, later recovered because they're part of what wall street still calls the revenge travel or long on money short on time thesis. disney report aid smaller dip than expected for theme park visitations. and expedia. really confirming that domestic travel slowdown i see. booking holdings which saw some slowing in domestic travel demand blamed it on normalization. the post-covid period is over and the travel slowdown starting in the united states we were the first ones to beat the pandemic it will probably finish in china because they were the last china's still traveling for now which is why wynn resorts could deliver terrific numbers from its macao business that is one reason we own it for the charitable trust bought some more yesterday, still like it here as i see it where there's smoke,

well, there's fire travel has peaked. but i'm not willing to say that the consumer has peaked or is done spending. we have a lull it's a moment where it kind of in time there may be nothing compelling to do we'll soon get retail earnings i feel they'll be fine, nothing great, nothing bad we saw costco's numbers today and they were strong you about let's not forget costco is the bargain hunter's heaven in the short run it doesn't matter whether consumers travel or not what matters is whether there's less spending on travel and whether the fed notices it take it as one more sign that consumers are being less extravagant, which is what leads to inflation a normalized consumer is one who's reacting to higher prices with rationality, choosing not to pay for things when they get too expensive. going on strike. and that's how prices come down. when prices come down we get less inflation and with less inflation the fed can at last cut interest rates it's called the business cycle and it will never be repealed. even by covid. so i can only conclude that while the companies that thrive on travel may be hurt it's about

time the consumer went on strike in the end only the consumer can control pricing by simply choosing not to spend as aggressively and if you're jay powell that is exactly what you want to see i like to say there's always a bull market somewhere. i promise to try to find it just for you right here on "mad money. i'm jim cramer see you tomorrow "last call" starts now. right now on last call, another top executive parts tesla. we didn't you hear the unsettling message to elon musk? sparking reviving demand. we have fresh data. good news that you're going to want to see. oil, soaring profits, record production. president joe iden, or donald trump? maybe the answer is more competent than you think. this is his most probable move yet. it has nothing to do with stocks. the coolest story that you