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represented the hard right of the house republican conference. of course, marchal green, thomas massey, who led this effort, warren davidson, who had previously told me that he was doing this for procedural reasons, wouldn't take a break vision on the underlying issue. others as well, victoria spartz, i'm going to just wondering, indiana primary chip roy, who has been a critic of some of these deals that have been made, but did not vote the house. kevin mccarthy, two members who did those two hours? kevin mccarthy, andy biggs, you like crane of arizona? andy biggs? but both of them voigt to kick out mccarthy here, voting to advance this measure. so you're seeing jake mostly the members on the far right, but johnson surviving this and we do expect johnson to address this also, jade in a matter of minutes. >> yeah. all right. manu raju. thank you so much. breaking news. very exciting and coming up in just a few minutes, of course, we're going to have more of cnns, erin burnett, and her exclusive interview with president biden. she's going to show a brand new portion of that exclusive interview next in the situation room with fault wolf, blitzer, and then of course her full interview will hair on erin burnett
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outfront. tonight's seven eastern right here on cnn happening now, breaking news it is explaining the decision to pause some u.s. bombs shipments israel as new israeli military strikes around raffa are raising urgent concerns that many more civilians in gaza will be killed. also tonight, the president is calling out donald trump& a crucial swing state unveiling a new economic investment on the same site, where a trump back project six fail. plus reiki news up on capitol hill right now, the house of representatives just voted to kill republican marjorie taylor greens attempt to oust the speaker, mike johnson, the gop leadership moving swiftly against her emotion despite apparently being caught off guard welcome
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to. our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer urine the situation the skis, cnn, breaking news we begin this hour with breaking news from president biden's exclusive knew cnn interview. >> we're about to release a new portion of his conversation with cnn, zarin burnett. she's in wisconsin where the president had events earlier today aaron's joining u.s. now from milwaukee with details erin, i know you pressed the president on a wide range of topics, including what's going on in israel and gaza, right? now. and the latest on the united states is military support for israel. tell u.s. what he said wealth. >> he had a lot to say on israel and the bottom line is he was very clear. he said we're walking away from israel's ability to wage war and population centers very strong words. he said for bb as
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he called the prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his war cabinet in terms of this incursion into rock for that is going on as we speak. let me just play a crucial part of our conversation for you, wolf i want to ask you about something happening as we sit here and speak and that of course is israeli striking raffa. >> i know that you have paused mr. president shipments of 2000 pound u.s. >> bombs to israel due to concern that they could be used in any offensive on raffa have those bombs, those powerful 2000 pound bombs, been used to kill civilians in gaza civilians have been killed in gaza is the consequences those bombs and other ways in which they go after population centers. >> i made it clear that if they go into raffa haven't gotten rough yet, they go into raffa. i'm not applying the weapons that have been used historically deal with raffa, deal with the cities that deal
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with that problem. we're going to continue to make sure as you're less secure in terms of iron dome and their ability to respond to attacks like came out of you at least recently. but it's just wrong. we're not gonna we're not gonna supply the weapons and artillery shells used that have been used, calorie shells as well? yeah, totally so just to understand what they're doing right now, rafah is that not going into raffa as you do have they haven't gotten in the population centers where they did is right on the border and it's causing problems with right now in terms of egypt, which i've worked very hard make sure we have a relationship and help but i've made it clear to bb in the war cabinet. >> they're not going to get our support if in fact they're gone, these population centers well, very significant there. what he said, because obviously
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the question that we asked was very direct. have american bombs, those powerful 2000 pound bombs that they've divide administration is now paused a shipment of to israel. have they been used? >> to, kill civilians. and his answer there was very direct. you did not be around the bush wolf civilians have been killed and gaza as a consequence of those bombs. and he went on to make it clear that there would be more pauses that the us would not provide weapons to go after these population centers. of course palestinian say that more than three, 5,000 people have been killed already. and saying that artillery shells would also potentially be halted in terms of the shipments, if israel continues here. so very strong words from the president and very clearly moving the needle from where he has been on this issue thus far, the very strong where it's very blunt words indeed aaron, what did the president and say about getting his overall message, including his economic message, to resonate better with voters. he's in wisconsin, a key battleground state so when he was here
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actually for a groundbreaking get a facility that trump had made huge fanfare it was a foxconn deal and trump had promised 13,000 jobs. really only only about 1,000 of them has materialized. so biden obviously wanted that split-screen of coming back to the same place and doing a totally different investment. it says that's gonna be 100,000 people trained in ai. and this facility, it was a partnership with microsoft. they were announcing, but when we talked about the situation with the economy, wolf and some of the challenges out there that the persistent inflation, the week consumer confidence, the economic growth, numbers that have fallen far short of expectations. the president was defiant he he acknowledged some of these things but said that he has done a lot. he has created jobs and was very much sticking with the message that he has had on the economy. so wolfe a lot of very important things we talked about there also though he talked about the election. he talked about why he thinks he's a much better ground game than donald trump and must win states like the one where i i am right now, wisconsin wolf, one thing he
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said though, and we'll play the full clip later. but he said that he promises that donald trump will not accept the outcome of the election if he loses interesting, erin burnett, excellent work as usual. thank you very much. and to our viewers, you can see all of errands exclusive interview with president biden and outfront that airs at the top of the hour, 7:00 p.m. eastern on erin burnett outfront. let's get some more on this story. it's an important development in deed. i want to bring in our chief international correspondent, clarissa ward. she's turning u.s. live from jerusalem. we're also joined by our chief national security correspondent, alex bark, where he's here in washington alex, they'll let me start with you. give u.s. some more context on those blunt and very important comments from president biden that we just heard. what message is the biden administration sending to the israeli government well, if i think these are very significant comments and could represent a major shift in the level of u.s. >> support for israel. you could hear the frustration and president biden's voice there about how israel has carried out their campaign and gaza,
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what they may have what they may intend to do and raffa, he said, it is just wrong. so i think the message from the united states tonight could not be clear. if you are going to go into rafah, into those population centers. we are going to cut you off and he specified the cons of weaponry that could be cut off from israel. those large bombs that are dropped from the sky, the artillery he also talked about the administration has mentioned today that shipment that was held up in the past few days, secretary of state lloyd austin, secretary defense, rather confirming that this big bombs, 2000 pounds, 500 pounds bombs that were going to be sent to israel had been held up some 35 hundred of them. so this is a significant shift the administration making a strong differentiation between offensive and defensive weapons. the threat now that the us could cut off israel with offensive weaponry, but making clear that they do continue to help israel defend itself with the iron don'ts
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iron dome system and against the kinds of attacks that we saw from a rock on a couple of weeks ago, wolf, important, clarissa, you're there in jerusalem for u.s. so far, our president biden's words, can you tell having any impact at all on the israeli government? >> well, privately we're hearing that officials have been voicing some consternation about this publicly. they've been more diplomatic and circumspect. we did see the israeli ambassador to the u.n on israeli television calling this decision or this pause very fresh trading. he also said it was very disappointing. he acknowledged the political realities that president biden is facing. but i think the real question will becomes does prime minister benjamin yet and yahoo take this on board how does he respond to this very clear and very public and very pointed? rebuke because in the past we have seen every time the biden administration tries to take a tough for leyen with
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israel that hasn't necessarily elicited the response that they would like to see from benjamin netanyahu government. and we are seeing satellite images, new satellite images, wolf coming in that show large your ground operations outside of rafah. muster areas along the border. we've heard from israeli officials before that this is also being used. they're calling it by the way, a sort of surgical counter terror operation. but we've also heard that this is being used to try to put pressure on hamas to try to drag more leverage at the negotiating table, but no question this is a crucial time in the relationship between these two close allies. >> well, absolutely right. and alex, on extremely sensitive issue right now, the biden administration, as you know, is facing a deadline to say if israel is actually violating international law that's the latest. >> well, this an important report that secretary of state antony blinken are supposed to deliver to congress determining
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whether israel has been falling international humanitarian law, whether they've been allowing international aid in and either way it goes, it could have major ramifications. if he says that no, they have not been following international humanitarian sorry, law, then that could have consequences for the kind of military aid that we've been talking about being sent to israel. he said, but if he says that, yes, they have been falling international humanitarian law, there will be howls from democrats in congress, from human rights groups, from growing number of people all across this country who believed that israel is violating international law. now this report was supposed to come out today. the state department spokesman said it will happen in the coming days. i spoke with a senior u.s. official who said they wanted to make clear that this is not just a box checking exercise that they are putting a lot of thought into this. and that when they delivered this report, finally, that it has all the proper context to explain seen the determination that they're making wolf alex, barack work fleurus award. thanks to both of you very much an important story indeed, just
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satellite dish. >> i'm going to do this thing with my neck just for a bit. >> a cnn exclusive president biden, erin burnett one-on-one. he's campaigning across the country. and now the president sits down with erin to talk about the economy and his plans for a second term. erin burnett outfront the night, it's seven on cnn close captioning is brought to you by skechers slip in pants looking for the most comfortable, stylish, easiest pants around, try new skechers, slip in pants, just slip in an experienced skechers, innovative comfort technology fabrics, skechers slip in pants, we're back with the breaking the news on cnn as exclusive new interview with president joe biden. he says, the us is pausing some major bomb shipments to israel out of concern that their weapons would be used to kill civilians in and around raffa, southern gaza. and israel is now conducting strikes precisely in that area. let's break all of this down with our political experts. it's gloria. will these comments, these latest comments in this exclusive interview with cnn from the president, do anything to calm
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down the riff that has developed among a lot of democrats, the democratic party. i think it might do a little. the question is, how long? this lasts, because i think the left in the democratic party would want it to last a long time. this is a very public rebuke from the president of the united states. there have been lots of whispers and lots of private conversations about how the president was worried about what was going to happen in raffa but there's been nothing like this. and the print of the united states saying he's stopping these shipments is quite a big step. the question is for the left, i think how long and also for the israelis, how long will this go on for? and we don't know the answer to that yet the president wants made it very clear. he wants to protect civilians and that the israelis don't have a history of doing that. and i think you could see his frustration in his conversation with erin rhie
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blood. it's not every day, yes. united states? pauses and shipping critically needed arike, ally yeah, very significant. ashley, at the end, let's talk a little bit about if the biden campaign to prevent israel to stop israel from going in with a major military operation into raffa in southern gaza. sales and the israelis don't heed his wordings and there have been repeated over the past several days. what's going to happen? >> i mean, the president has to be in the most challenging position i've ever seen him on it particular issue. he's between a rock and a hard place. i mean, the issue here is that his interests are in direct conflict with that of netanyahu but here's three things that i think the president knows. one is foreign policy does not sway a national election to american sentiment is on his side the american people support israel, but three politically, the most important one i think he's got to stop the bleeding immediately. so he's desperate to try to get a ceasefire, make some progress on a ceasefire to
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your point, he's withholding these arms as leverage, but now you're hearing mcconnell and other republicans that are now starting to weigh in on the issue that are really going to i think potentially apply some pressure to the president to release the arm. so that's going to compound the president's situation. so it's really a pretty impossible actuation right now for the president well, i think to actually point, i think one of the things about foreign policy and a political context is you want a president to have a sense of clarity and a sense of resolve and i think one of the problems that the president has now with this move is that it does call into question whether or not he has the strategy in a year unity a unified strategy here, we've watched admirable admiral kirby say many times that the us and israel are lockstep right now, that there's no daylight between u.s. >> on strategy, this shows that there's some daylight that becomes problematic for the president. i think he isn't a very tough position and i don't think the politics plays to his place days favor here,
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really sensitive moment in u.s is really, really nothing on this right now. his favor as you know, gloria, the president, was in wisconsin today. the key battleground state specifically went to the same site, exact same site where trump, but what six years ago touted a new manufacturing plant that he was promoting. we're sharing some video of that. listen to what president biden said today about that. listen to this hate administration promised to $10,000,000,000 investment by foxconn, new manufacturing complex create 13,000 new jobs in fact, he came here with your senator ron johnson, literally holding a golden shovel, promising to build the eighth wonder of the world. a dug a hole those golden shovels, and then they fell into it. foxconn turned out to be just that a con go figure he clearly seemed, to be enjoying needling trump at this sensitive moment, right?
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>> yes. but, you know, he's got problems of zone on the economy, right? and so i think that he's needling donald trump saying, look, this project went nowhere. my projects on my infrastructure plan are being built but you can't deny the trouble the white house is having. getting the public onboard with the notion that the economy is improving, which in fact it is but it's very difficult for them right now because, you know, 34% of the american public, according to our recent polls say that current economic conditions are really poor. >> you, he said in his remarks today, actually that erin burnett exclusive interview to erin burnett. he said he has vanished during his years in the white u.s. to turn the economy around? yes. >> how does he get that message across to voters? >> well, i think that's, that's these events like in wisconsin, you've got the vice president that's traveling around the country as well on the economic tour. so they're really throwing everything
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they've got at a cabinet. cabinet secretaries, the whole of the party, they're now investing million voters not responding. >> well, i think i've been in politics long enough and maybe kevin has a different opinion, but politics long enough to know that the economy is never as great as everybody would like for it to be. >> i always want more money. i never have enough money right? just to kinda the similar with crime and safety, it's you never feel safe enough. so but, but the president is absolutely right. we have the strongest economy in the world. he's created 15 million jobs record low unemployment we meant, i think he's just going to have to keep doing more and more of what they're doing, which is barn storming going around the country and making the case in a very localized way. i mean, he's in ran sin today and he quoted numbers that he created 4,000 jobs on the ground. there. donald trump lost thousand jobs there was i thought it was interesting that trump is not clear probably the presumptive republican presidential nominee. >> but there was a republican primary in indiana last night, nikki haley, listen to this. she's not even running
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anymore. nikki haley, look at this sheet. got more than 21% of the year republican vote in indiana. nikki haley dropped out. what more than two months ago, but she's had similar strong performances in some other recent states as well. what does that say about trump? >> well, it says that there are a lot of republican holdouts out there in previous elections. lot of these republicans showed up and they sort of held their nose and voted for trump. they may not like it. they may not like his message. they may have a different candidate that they prefer but trump is now the nominee and they have to have this choice now whether or not they're going to show up in november. so this is that shows the challenge that donald trump has is he's got to get these republicans that are holdouts right now to come out in november. it also presents an opportunity to biden, knowing that there are these folks out there, that they're still holding their nose? so they're not willing to support trump. what can they do, do to go and get them voter is really care about inflation. >> yeah. >> and in many cases where they're suburban women voters, they care about the issue of abortion. so i expect to hear on a lot of those issues being
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focused on the member trump said he didn't care about nikki haley's voters he did, but now he will not. >> the message that you want for a swing voter you don't care about the exact all right, guys. >> thanks very much. good discussion coming up. there's breaking news up on capitol hill house, republican marjorie taylor greene tries and quickly fails big time to oust the speaker by johnson scopus torres was at the absolute peak of his celebrity in olympic heroes, xhaka murder trial, we learned much darker, individual power would really hatch sel martin sandi, nine on cnn right now, pet dander skin cells in dirt are settling, deepen your carpet fibers. stanley steamer removes the dirt uc and the dirt you don't your corporates aren't clean until there's stanley steamer clean why
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gave u.s. the latest the vote was overwhelmingly against her puzzle 359243 yeah, this is a resounding defeat from margiela green after weeks of threatening to move ahead with this vote to house my johnson from the speakership one time. >> there's only been one other time in american history. well, this has happened to them successfully that happened with kevin mccarthy in the fall much different this time because demo congrats came to my johnson's defense, something they did not do it in the fall when eight republicans doing with democrats to kick out mccarthy that upward, of was led by republicans different because in part of my johnson's dealmaking, the same deal-making that has gotten me in hot water with marjorie taylor greene& as far-right went up, democrats in particular are happy with the doc cut when it came to ukraine, 861 billion in aid to train margiela green was furious, ultimately, today's she decided to take advantage of the fact that one member can call for a vote two hours to speaker. she did that on the floor and then there was a procedural vote to kill it. and in that procedural voigt, that's where it went down to.
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the voigt wolf 359240396. republicans voted to kill it, 163 democrats also voted to kill the word 32 democrats who wanted to advance this measure, 11 republicans also wanted advanced measures. those republicans, mostly under far right of the republican conference immediately afterwards, mike johnson came out and he urges conference to unite after months of disarray in bitter infighting. >> we need to get beyond it the speaker of the house serves the whole house. >> that's the job so one person who did come to my johnson's defense was former president donald trump. >> in fact, right before the vote, he put out a statement on his social media page saying that republicans should kill this everett. he called for unity as part of this is the first time please come out publicly to say that marchal children's effort should not go forward. so you're seeing a major split within the far right of republican conference.
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this time might donald trump siding with my johnson? he did say though in that same message, perhaps later down the road, things could change. so we'll see how marchal green, this size approaches in the months ahead. but there is no appetite among most republicans for any sort of internal fighting after we've seen this play out since last october when kevin mccarthy was kicked out and the republican agenda getting stymied, unable to move legislation for months, amid this finger-pointing and back biting and name-calling, members primary against each other and now trying to kick out the second speaker this congress, but this ever now failing after this bipartisan majority rejected marchal trends efforts to move ahead and kick out my kick them out from the speakership i failed big, big time mount erasure. >> thank you very much. sure. we're also following new moves right now by donald trump's legal team in his hush money criminal trial, trump's lawyers are now asking in new york appeals squirt to expedite his challenge of the judges gag order against them. we're also learning the defense plans, a more extensive, cross-examined examination of stormy daniels
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than originally planned when she returns to the stand in new york tomorrow, terrace, godel has been in court every day of the trial. qarrah is joining u.s. right now. qarrah in new york kirk appeals court just responded to trump's latest filing. what did they say the appeals court is saying that both sides, donald trump's team, and the manhattan district attorney's office have to have all their briefs in by may 20. >> that suggests that this appeal will not be decided before the verdict in this case is out. so it's seems unlikely that the appeals court is going to rule on the gag order in that time. but if this challenge does come in the middle of stormy daniels testimony and the gag order prohibits donald's from making any comments about any witnesses in this case. and the judge has already found that trump has violated that gag order ten times, and he chastised donald trump yesterday. in court when trump was seen visibly shaking his head and response to her testimony, and the judge said he heard him utter some curses. so the timing here is
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interesting as daniels will be back on the stand tomorrow for more cross-examination. trump's team has really focused their questions. i'm trying to undercut her credibility and to challenge her motivations saying that she was after money and that she was trying to extort donald trump. now, they did about 90 minutes of cross yesterday. they will have more of an opportunity tomorrow. how far they go and how much they push her on some inconsistencies in her statements remains to be seen because it does have the possibility of opening the door for prosecutors to get in more detail. l's about her night with donald trump and what followed. well, keras canal in new york for u.s. >> thank you. coming up. how donald trump's trial delay strategy is actually working again this time in the georgia election subversion case every weekday morning, cnn's five things has what you need to get going with. you're de, it's the five essential story because of the morning in five minutes or less cnn's five things with
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representative marjorie taylor greens motion to try to oust him as speaker. >> take a listen that to some of those remarks i'm glad that this distraction is not going to inhibit that important work and all of the other things that are on the table and on the agenda for u.s. right now, hopefully this is the end of the personality politics and the frivolous character assassination that has defined 118th congress it's regrettable, it's not who we are as americans and we're better than this. we need to get we're going to keep you updated with any more new developments also tonight, a potential setback for the prosecution of donald trump in georgia. state appeals court has agreed to consider if district attorney of funny willis should be disqualified from the election? subversion case, trump and his co defendants are appealing a judge's ruling allowing funny to stay on the case. brian tatas joining u.s. right now, brian pump scoring and other win in his efforts to delay delay, delay, right? >> well, if he has now been
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successful with that tactic, tactic in three of his for criminal trials. tonight, it seems likely that those three cases will not reach the courtroom before election day there's not much mystery to donald trump's longstanding legal strategy, delay, delay, delay donald trump has never seen a delay that he doesn't like in a court case against him in all four criminal cases against him, cases in which he's pleaded not guilty. >> the former president and his legal teams have filed motion after motion to bob weave and flat out slow down all the trials. just today in the georgia case where he's accused of attempting to subvert the 2020 election results. the states court of appeals said it will consider it are trump's continued efforts to disqualify district attorney funny willis from the proceedings because of the controversy surrounding her past romantic relationship with fellow prosecutor, nathan weighed. willis has said she wants that trial to begin in august. >> that is looking doubtful at
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the moment to say the least in the so-called moral logo case, where trump's accused of mishandling classified documents and hindering the government's efforts to recover them. judge, aileen cannon, who was appointed by trump, has just postponed the trial indefinitely. judge cannon had originally scheduled that trial to start this month, but right now, there are nearly a dozen issues before her that she has yet to rule on. >> she has sat in her office. apparently paralyzed from ruling on easily resolvable motions. >> cannon has scheduled to hearings for june on what had been considered longshot motions from trump won on trump's request for records from the biden administration the other on trump's claims that special counsel jack smith, the lead prosecutor we're in the moral logo case, was appointed unlawfully. >> i seriously doubt this one is going to win, but once again, it's an example of an opportunity to slow things down. >> then there's the january 6 election subversion case against trump also brought by jack smith. trump claims he has
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presidential immunity in that case, an argument the supreme court is now but deciding the validity of, but one that the high court may take, it's time to rule on. >> they could last till the end of june and i think it's gonna be very difficult to get this case to trial, even if they decided tomorrow it's just not likely to get at this too many other things that can happen. and trump is a master of delay and delay is on his side so why the delay tactic by trump, annalena, if trump gets elected again, he would have the power as president to order the justice department to drop the january 6 case and the moral logo case because those are both federal cases, the most likely case he's to survive against trump if he's elected, is the georgia case because that is a state proceeding. >> but it's also open to debate whether that case would survive. well, our brand tied reporting, brian, thank you. let's get some more and all of this with cnn legal analysts, michael moore and cnn senior crime and justice reporter kaitlan, poland. kaitlan, what is the likelihood? that any other trial than the current hush money trial that's
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ongoing in new york, will actually take place before the november election. >> well, wolf, it's quartz so you never know when it comes to these things, courts can move very fast and all of a sudden there might be a case on the calendar and then it might get taken away or moved very quickly as well. so we just won't know until we get a little bit later into the summer don't bet your life savings on having an additional trial outside of the new york trial before election day. and very much so, or having a verdict by that date in early november but if you do step back a minute, even with the georgia case bogged down now with an appeals court situation, the florida documents case with a lot of work for judge aileen can and still to get done. >> there. is this case in washington, dc that if the supreme court makes a clean ruling against trump, like the other courts have done there is a real possibility that in that four month window from the end
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of the us supreme court term at the end of june to election day, you could see trial judge tanya chutkan slot this in on the calendar. there isn't that much else to resolve in that case. it's before trial, aside from that very significant and weighty and potentially quite complicated presidential immunity question that the supreme court's looking at. >> what happens to the supreme court's on that so far, how much of a success these delays has this been for trump and his legal team right now? and what are the consequences for the room? >> hello of law in our country has all of this unfolds. >> yeah, well, i'm glad to be with you know, anytime he gets to delay, it's a success for him right now. >> but but i also want to sort of juxtapose that with this idea that we've been rushing to try his cases before the election. so this is not normal own either on anybody's part, right? i mean, you would never see this a rush to make sure that we get a trial in our four trials in before a certain election day. but he happens to be the candidate for president
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on the republican ticket. so that's different. i mean, at the same time he then tried to put the brakes on with these various motions. so it's a success for him to delay it. i mean, i do think that's right, that if he were to win the election, he'll uses presidential power and the federal cases will go away. that leaves the question of the state case in georgia he wouldn't have the power to pardon himself from that case. but the likelihood that he could go to trial before the end of his term would be nil. i just don't think they're going to make a sitting president go sit in georgia to try a case like this as it relates to the whole picture of justice. and what we do. i think it probably doesn't send a great message. i mean, but maybe because people have not always pay attention to these tactics, it's not unusual to appeal cases. it's not unusual to have interlocutory appeals like we're seeing in georgia. it's not unusual to file motions because you have to represent your client but it may not be given people the confidence that the system is moving as quickly as they like to submit michael, when most criminal defendants want to claim their innocence, they want to go to
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trial to clear their name quickly as possible. they don't want an indictment hanging over them for two. >> that's sometimes the case. i mean, sometimes they find to that longer they wait and witness's memories tend to fade. witnesses die, evidence gets lost. i mean, so there's all these reasons that go into strategic decisions about when to schedule a trial if you're asked for a trial to be scheduled, but this idea somehow that the georgia case would be scheduled at august i mean, i'd like to get the winning lottery ticket and i've got a bad as much chance of that u.s. attorney in the middle district of georgia. but let me ask you a question about what's going on in florida. write down the classified documents, cases, you know, just how extraordinary is judge eileen cannons handling of this entire classified documents? yeah. i mean, thanks. she's really taken too much time and rubin also motions that she could have ruled on that. that's causing some people to question what you find those critics of judges are critical when they don't go with their side of the case and then they praise them when they do go with their side of the games so
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my guess is that she's taken too long. she's she's confronted with the case. she is a fairly new judge confronted with a case of great magnitude she may be putting too much effort into some of the motions she could have dealt with on short notice and in short work and that's that's given people i think legitimate reason to question is she just move into slow and could she i've gotten some of the administrative work done faster basis, lots and all of these developments, macklemore, kaitlan collins to both of you. thank you very much coming up. we'll have a closer look at the situation in gaza. israel expands military operations in raffa prompting 50,000 palestinians to flee, stay with u.s you're in this how we'd really happy with jesse you, martin, sunday's at night on c and here's to getting better with age here's the beat leads to every thursday help fuel today with boost type protein complete nutrition, you need
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operations, i want to bring in cns nada bashir. she's here with me in this room for a closer look. so you've been doing amazing reporting on gaza for what all of these months that this war has been going on help u.s. better appreciate what the palestinians in raffa in particular are going through right now. >> well, we've been hearing the warnings some months now from wealth leaders from u.n. agencies about the devastation that we could see in there are fat considering in this number of civilians now concentrated in the city. this is the city that many of them were told to evacuate. two, in the initial weeks and months of the war were talking about 1.4 million people, approximately who are currently concentrated in the southern city and the potential for full-scale ground offensive in the rough er has raised huge amounts of concern so i'm considering already the fact that we are seeing a deteriorating humanitarian situation warnings now of an imminent feminine, but of course, we've seen those airstrikes on their offer on multiple occasions. this has been going on. for months now, but potential for ground
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offensive could lay huge tragedy amongst these civilians. and as you mentioned, we've already seen tens of thousands fleeing to the al-nasser coastal line where of course they have been instructed to go to. but again, that is just tens of thousands of around 1.4 million people. >> around half of whom were children. >> so there is significant concern here. >> so i take just the torque of this israeli military operation there could begins in a significant way, any de, now, despite the statements for president biden telling the israelis don't do it there's enormous fear going on right now and concern how has that affected the humanitarian situation? >> well, this is already a deteriorating humanitarian situation. we're hearing now from aid organizations saying that they're going to have to either pause or halt their operations in the rough after world central kitchen certainly has had to take that into consideration. and of course, we have to remember what is a crucial gateway for aid to get in via the egyptian border crossing? we've seen those lines of trucks queuing up on the egyptian side of the crossing that is now extending. and of course if indeed there is a full-scale ground gradient
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that will make it extremely difficult for these eight trucks to get in. we've been hearing those calls for more land crossings to be opened because that is most effective way of getting a1. but of course that will make it very difficult to aid agencies to operate on the ground as well because of the security concerns. and as we know gaza is heading into a famine. so this is certainly raise concern amongst eight organizations and huge amounts of fear amongst the civilians who are already facing a desperate situation. >> you've reported on what's happening in gaza now for the past seven months since october 7th, give u.s. the big picture right now. how has the situation deteriorated in gaza over these? get as many months. >> i mean, we've been talking for months now, but the deterioration of a healthcare system the deterioration of hospitals in the fact that there are simply no hospitals left really to provide the full amount of care that is needed. we've been talking about the lack of food supplies getting in and now of course we're talking about seven months on and it seems that every single warning that we have heard from wildly he does from aid agencies, from humanitarian groups have simply been ignored. and of course, the
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israeli authorities, israeli government have said that they are not hindering access to aid, that they are offering precautions for civilians. of course offering those evacuation routes. but as we've heard from the biden administration, they don't have any credible plans presented to them for the safe evacuation of protection no civilians in an offer. and what we have seen repeatedly now over the last seven months is these warnings being ignored and the fact that we've got to this point now a more than 34,000 people have been killed, where we're talking about famine, where we're hearing now u.n. agencies, other officials considering and discussing the potential of genocide, that's a huge question. the fact we're talking king about that now, and that is the language that is not entering discourse when we talk about gaza that is a huge point of concern. seven months on, we're not near a ceasefire. we're still seeing those negotiations stagnating. and of course, what we are seeing officials and khaybar now discussing the potential for a ceasefire with the ceasefire and release the hostages we'll look time and time again. we've heard that we're reaching a point where perhaps there is consensus that there is agreement on both
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sides on the key points we've heard that sadly from the biden administration and yet time and time again, we've seen this huge sticking points. now, the israeli government has been clear. they don't want to pull out until there is a full destruction a full eradication of hamas. hamas is called for the form of der, all of, israeli troops from gaza. they want see a full end to the war that will not happen. of course, unless israel are satisfied with the fact that they have completely eradicated hamas in gaza. we're seeing me sticking points and despite the huge concern around civilians were not seem to be closer to a full-scale c-spine. of course we are i talking about a pause and fighting initially that could then lead to a potential full ceasefire. >> the question of whether that actually happens from svc ovals as indeed not about shear. >> welcome to washington. thank you very much for that update appreciate i'd we'll be right back with born a cnn exclusive president biden, erin burnett one-on-one. >> these games campaigning across the country. and now the president sits down with erin to talk about the economy and
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