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with kaitlan collins starts now straight from the source tonight, a cnn exclusive that is making headlines around the world president biden, issuing a warning thank two prime minister netanyahu, if israel invades rafah, the us will stop sending bombs a demand my source tonight has been making senator bernie sanders will join we live inside the most explosive and explicit testimony yet, and the trump hush money trial. trust me, i was there. how his attorneys are now prepping for but when stormy daniel's will retake the witness stand tomorrow, we've got an insider who is deeply sourced and trump world and marjorie taylor greene's temper tantrum as it is it's been called by her irate fellow republicans on capitol hill saying that her dramatic move late today to oust house speaker mike johnson is the wrong one. instead now they are uniting against her. one of her most vocal republican critics is here live. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source
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despite the constant complaints that we have heard about how his ongoing criminal trial as keeping him off the campaign trail. donald trump's fan, his day today off from court at his mar-a-lago club in south florida. out on the campaign trail. but that again, after what we all heard in that courtroom yesterday, maybe it's not just the former president who needed a breather meanwhile, on the campaign trail today. and that key battleground state of wisconsin president biden is trying to beat back the issues that are vexing his campaign before november in an exclusive interview here on cnn, erin burnett asked president biden if he's worried that he's running out of time to improve his standing with voters when it comes to the economy biden says that corporate greed is to blame for some of the pain that americans are feeling. but on the whole, he argues, is already made huge progress polling data has been wrong all
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along. we have the strongest economy in the world let me say it again. >> in the world, no presidents had the run. we've had in terms of credit jobs and bringing down inflation was 9% when i can do office 9%, but look, people have a right to be concerned president biden also said that he thinks there's no chance his presumptive challenger, donald trump, will accept the results of the election probably will if he wins, but we'll talk more about that in a moment. we've got all of our political experts standing by. but biden also said in this interview for the first time that he would stop the shipments of american west up into to israel if israel conducts an invasion into rafah think i want to refer i'm not applying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with rafah do with the citizen? >> deal with that problem we're going to continue to make sure because you're less secure in terms of iron dome and your ability to respond to attacks like came out the least
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recently but it's just wrong. we're not gonna we're not gonna supply the weapons and artillery shells use that have been used shells as well. yeah i told myself, i've made it clear to bb in the war cabinet. they're not going to get our support. if in fact they've gone these population centers were not walking away from israel security, walking away israel's ability to do wage war in those areas. >> so it's not over your red line yet not yet but it's we've held up the weapons we've had we've held up that one shipment biden also acknowledged for the first time that u.s bombs have been used by israel to kill civilians in gaza. that withholding that he mentioned there is that new shipment of 2000 pound bombs that the us worried could have been used in ra rafah that they put on hold last week. >> my exclusive source on this tonight is the senior senator from vermont, a vocal critic of
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both how israel is fighting the war and american policy there and gaza, independent senator bernie sanders and senator sanders great to have you back here on the source. >> you just heard president biden saying there, if israel invades rafah, he won't supply the offensive weapons to carry out that that attack. is that a strong enough response from the us and your view well, i think it's a good stuff forward. >> i think we've got to do even more the bottom line is kaitlan is what netanyahu has done in gaza, is unconscionable i mean, we're talking about 35,000 palestinians killed, 77,000 wounded, 70% of whom are women and children, over 5% of the population killed or wounded. we're talking about destruction of 60% of the housing every university in gaza has been bombed there is no virtually no clean water, raw sewage is running all over the streets and right now according to humanitarian
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organizations, were looking at the possibility of massive famine and starvation, hundreds of thousands of kids starving to death in my view, netanyahu's should not have gotten a nickel. so long as he continued this incredibly destructive war, i'm glad to see that the president is beginning, beginning to move in that direction yeah. >> you're saying beginning and a good step. but it doesn't sound like it goes far enough for you. >> it doesn't. but i hope it continues. i hope the president on the slams, what we all understand israel had a right to defend itself against the horrific hamas attack killing 1,200 people but you don't have the right to go to war against the entire palestinian people and bring about unprecedented damage and destruction and death. and america should not be complicit in what is going on there right now. >> even with this warning obviously the israeli military already has enough weapons supplied by the us and by other
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nations to carry out the invasion of rafah if it so chooses to do so. so i mean, is it a warning that in your view comes too late, maybe? >> well, it sure to come a lot earlier, but look, the truth is we are sitting on billions of dollars of military support for israel, which the president could deny them tomorrow. i'm not yahoo understands that we have enormous leverage and the time is long overdue. for u.s. to utilize that leverage. i voted against giving netanyahu and other $10 billion for offensive weapons. i hope we can move in that direction. >> yeah. i mean, you're standing in the halls of capitol hill that just approved and pass a lot more aid to israel. but some other people who view this differently than you do, may look at it and say, well, president biden has also said, israel should do what it takes to defeat hamas. and the idf says that there are hamas battalions and raffa that yahya sinwar, a key leader of hamas,
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is there hostages are there. so i think some people may hear this so well, what should israel do? >> look, it is a difficult issue. hamas is a very difficult enemy to fight. they are a terrorist group. they use civilian shields. it is true but look what america cannot and must not be part of, is literally the destruction of all of gaza. i mean, the infrastructure education that health care system decimated and so many women and children were killed. so, yes, you've got to go after hamas but no, you cannot continue rapidly, literally almost to destroy the entire people in that region the last time that you and i spoke, you declined to say whether you believed israel was committing genocide. >> have you are you prepared to do so? >> now, how does a media question let u.s. >> ask all the time i'm going
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to generate care about that. >> no, no. look now what people care about is stopping netanyahu. netanyahu from the massive destruction that he is bringing forth in gaza right now, you, as you know, the international court of justice is looking at that issue. what constitutes genocide is that the killing of 6 million jews in world what was a 2 million cambodians being killed by pol pot is what happened in rwanda. i'll let the international court of justice and term not what i will tell you though. what is going on now is horrific. it is unacceptable, and we have got to use all of our leverage to stop it. >> okay. so you're not prepared to call it a genocide yet? >> you haven't been obviously really outspoken on this. >> and one thing that you told christiane amanpour is that you believed that this could be president biden's vietnam senator. obviously, you've lived through the draft 58,000 americans died. and i do wonder but what do you, what do you mean in the comparison oh, no,
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that's the wrong kaitlan knocks the wrong point to be made. >> of course, this is not vietnam. of course, tens of thousands of american soldiers are not die in this war, right? >> the point was a political point. and that is, that lyndon johnson, in many ways was a very, very good president brought forth some major pieces of legislation that helped working people, that helped low-income people came, brought forth medicare, helping senior citizens he chose the spite all of those accomplishments. >> he chose not to run for reelection in 68 because of his support for the war and the opposition grassroots opposition to the war in vietnam. that's the point you made. it's a political question, obviously, this is not like the war in vietnam in terms of american participation, okay, well, i'm glad you cleared that up because i had seen some responses when you initially said that. so i'm glad you cleared that up and you are so connected with young voters,
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with progressive voters, you're a champion for them do you think that president biden could lose the election over this? >> well, that's what i worry about. look, i think biden has a lot of accomplishments and the point that i would make u.n. have made before joe biden is not running against god he's not running against the perfect candor. he's running against a guy named donald trump are the most dangerous president in the history of this country. so what i would say to young people and all americans if you believe in the foundations of american democracy, you cannot vote for trump, whose undermining democracy, if you believe that women have a right to control their own bodies, you can vote for trump. he appointed the supreme court justices who overturned roe v. wade. if you the climate change is real. and we got to save this planet for our kids and future generations. you can't vote for donald trump. people ease climate change is a hoax. >> hoax. if you think that your concern that we have massive income and wealth inequality you can't support trump
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because he wants to give billions of dollars in tax breaks to the one so i think, yeah biden is not a perfect candidate. i a very strong disagreements with them over gaza. i'm glad to see is making some good movements forward, but the choice in this election is pretty clear. >> can i ask you a question about the campus protests that we've seen and a comment that your fellow senator john fetterman made about those protests. he said that the students are working against peace, that they don't know what they're protesting against. and he said it's helping hamas from a pr perspective. what's your response to that? >> no, i think i think that the students do know what they are protesting. >> and they are looking at what's going on in gaza. >> and the massive killing of women and children and they are saying, you know what our great country should not be part of that type of destruction. they understand the net yoho not
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only has a right-wing government it is a government in which you have out and out racists attached to it, working with you. so i think the vat luck i'm not going to speak to every single protester. but i think the overwhelming majority know exactly what they're talking about as i want u.s and u.s. complicity in that war senator sanders, always great to have you here on the source. thank you for joining u.s. tonight. >> thank you, caitlin. >> up next those halls of capitol hill aren't as quiet as they are right now, because earlier congresswoman marjorie taylor greene over in the house finally made good on her threat to try to oust house speaker mike johnson. it failed spectacularly on the house floor. we're gonna be joined by one of many in the party who voted against that tonight. also, how donald trump's legal team is preparing for a now there are stormy day in court tomorrow. new reporting ahead moscow pistorius was by the absolute peak of his celebrity
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everybody in her party all because she moved to house to house, republican house speaker mike johnson on in the florida surprise move rather than in reality of this is this is like the congressional version of a temper tantrum. >> most of u.s. by the time we turn 12-years-old, figure out the tantrums, don't actually work. and apparently not everybody in congress has got the memo. she is engaged in a failing act of political theater marjorie wants to sow chaos. the division within the republican party moscow. >> marjorie has clearly gone off the deep end. maybe the result of the space laser the attempt to remove the house speaker lasts about half an hour earlier today, isn't a majority of democrats in the house helped shut it down and keep him in his job. one of the 196 republicans who wanted nothing to do with that motion is here joining me now, south dakota representative dusty johnson and congressman thomas massie, your colleague. it was the one seated right behind marjorie taylor greene. is she introduced this earlier today?
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he said earlier that he has sympathy for those of you who are lashing out at u.s right now, the few of you we just showed on the steps because they're going to go home and take an whipping from their base. but as they voted wrong here tonight, what's your response to that thomas is smart guy, but he's being pretty dumb here. >> and then i spent a lot of time at home. i go home every weekend of south dakota. i talked to hundreds of people every weekend. they're not focused on this. kaelyn what they want is for u.s. to actually be big, big boys and big girls and get our work done i think they're actually a little exasperated by all the dc power games. and so listen, thomas, i love you, but you are dead wrong on this. >> what does it say though, about the state of the gop that vows conference that you needed democrats to help save the republican speaker i get it. everybody always wants to talk about the rs and the ds i try not to get caught up in that caitlin. i mean, if you're speaker mike johnson, your job
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is week in and week out to go do something good for america and you've got to get 218 votes to get that done now that coalition is going to look a little different in any given vote today, the coalition we had good people, good americans who craves stability, who crave real work, who came together to push back against the chaos of marjorie taylor greene do you believe that she should be removed from the republican conference for what did i've got a lot of my colleagues who are talking about punishment. >> i'm not so much into punishment. the only thing i want is a u.s. house that works, that gets our job done. i'm really open to some rule changes that would help u.s. do that. admittedly, some people will look at those this rule changes and assume that the motivation is about punishment. it is not for me. i just know we got real stuff to tackle and these kinds of games are not helpful congressman desi johnson, i have a feeling we might see them again in the future. >> thank you for joining with u.s. tonight in this breaking
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news. >> thank you. >> and our political sources here tonight on all of this former trump campaign adviser jason osborne, cnn political commentator and author of the moment bacardi sellers, as well as former new york city mayor bill of lazio i mean, jason, your party, tell u.s i don't really know what her point was other than i feel like a number of these members like marjorie taylor, matt gaetz. >> is that they're listening to or they think that their constituents are on twitter and they're not listening to what the folks back home and their district actually had to say about this and to dustbins point, i guarantee you that there is probably a scintilla of amount of pressure back home for any of these members with regard to mike johnson, if they even know his name. this is all an effort by marjorie taylor. she got caught in a box and realized that there was the only the only way out for her was to actually go ahead and pull the trigger on this. she knew she was going to lose and now she's going to try and fundraise off of it this idea that you're going to kick her out of the conference? i don't even know what that means because she's still a
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republican and she's still going to vote republican, but maybe she's not on a committee and she survived several months without being on committees last congress, i mean, what donald trump weighed in on this. i mean, i don't think this thought hasn't gone away because he didn't explicitly condemn it. he one waited after the voted already happened, urging them to kill it, but to he said, you know, maybe we'll need to use this at another time, but saying basically that time is not now for democrats and i actually agree, but for for democrats, what we realize is that republicans can't govern every time republicans get in leadership where we recognize quickly is that they have a fundamental inability to govern. we did repeal and replace, right? remember that whole fiasco where they were going to repeal and replace obamacare. they went through this whole episode, they got elected on it in and then all of a sudden they weren't able to do that. you had a speaker just recent recently, kevin mccarthy. now you have mike johnson, people realize the job is too big for him. no one's really paying attention to the palace intrigue. but what they are realizing is that republicans simply can't
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govern. and so what this means, i do believe, and i'll bet you a steak dinner on this, maybe a little bit tequila, but definitely it's like dinner. >> is that hakeem jeffries is gonna be the next speaker of the house. well, there's reporting manu had said that what progressive told him that hakeem jeffries approach and basically said there's one time that will save mike johnson's speakership. essentially, it's not going to happen many times. i don't think anyone thought they'd see the day worrying democrat would save a house speaker and this house, but what do, how do democrats handle this is mike johnson better than an alternative? or would it end up where jeffries as speaker, i give hakeem jeffries lot of credit. he cut a deal. i'm sure that works for democrats and it looked the bigger statement here, the american people are seeing is an incorrect i had a billy own unified dissonant upset, angry republican party. i mean, we haven't republican party actually resembles what the democratic party so often used to look like. this is almost like a total flip. kaelyn is kind of amazing. i've never
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seen the democratic party this unified in my entire life. and it's been decades since republicans were this dysfunctional. i mean, there's primaries everywhere now and they're turning on their own speakers all the time. and the idea, look at even in indiana de of the night, you have most of 20% of republican voters turning against their own nominee something's wrong in the republican party and every time they have one of these dysfunctional fights, it communicates the american people they're the party of dysfunction actually today democrats are the party of unity and stability. never thought i'd be able to say it, but it's true what you're talking about that zombie vote for nikki haley. we're still seeing at pennsylvania. we saw an indiana. it's remarkable not even in this race. and people are still voting for her. but speak of what that race is going to look like in this interview there and burnett earlier, president biden weighed in on this idea of president four rows and trump not accepting the results of the election. this is what he said hi guys, not a democrat, a with a small d he
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is the idea. but you can only love your country when you're win number one. how many court cases supreme court cases they all said this is totally legitimate election this is, this is true i mean, it's the same whether he and he may not accept the outcome of the election. i promise you he want i mean, he probably will see wins i mean, i think for sure, donald trump, right? >> i mean, i admit that is a problem. no, no. say i agree with joe biden. say it. >> like i say, i haven't i could be honest, i was having i will say that think that they will accept the results of the election. >> you can say the election should be he fair and free. write, and you can demand that throughout the process. but
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starting now to cast dispersion on what the election may end up being. i think a troubling sign and we're going to continue to hear throughout the rest of this. >> i mean, that tim scott moment was remarkable. he would not say whether or not he except yeah. what did you i mean, south carolina. what did you make of it? >> i really want to toss this and somebody else. i know tim scott, new york over here in new york, in over there. i know tim scott. i loved him scott, i i've said this many times before. i would give tim scott to kidney today if he asked me forward, i would never vote for him the person that we're seeing today though, is someone who is it's really fighting very, very valiantly to be vice president of the united states. and he'll probably landed somewhere around secretary of hood. >> if he's lucky. >> and i think donald trump has this unique ability to transform grown man into something that we're not used to seeing them be. >> and that's going to be a story that's told 20 here's from now, how people like tim scott are lindsey graham or the people who other people who we thought had some forded to just
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crumbled& his hands i agree with that. >> i think the psychological reality of trump is something that's still been under-examined. >> we look back into history, why did certain leaders sort of capture their name? shins psyche in ways that often we're not productive. obviously, you think of to use a very different analogy. i'm not going to compare directly, but you think of your mussolini's& your hitler's in one level. you think of capable throw that out. there, are no what i'm saying you can't you can't make a direct comparison, but how did nations fall under the sway equally you think of other leaders, charles the goal at one point in france had france in raptured with him or churchill and the best moments in britain. so i'm trying to make a broader point. certain leaders have a psychological ability to get under the skin of their people. but the difference here, i think it's a very notable difference is that trump has a kind of a narcissism that is so obviously destructive to everything around it. how many people
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it's not just michael cohen, how many people from his world have left in disgust, in anger, feeling betrayed. how many people de stiff when he was in business and never paid. this is a pattern that i think makes him unique and i think this time the tricks not work in the same way him being in the courtroom every day. i mean, what i thought was a man facing today with aaron's interview, joe biden's and wisconsin now, our candidates, some years ago didn't remember to go the ballot ground states enough. but joe biden has been out in wisconsin and michigan the states in pennsylvania incessantly whereas donald trump, in a courtroom well, make sure hillary clinton said that doesn't osborne party sellers fields balls, you, happy birthday. >> thank you they have happy. >> 40 to be on your birthday than the source and speaking of that testimony in the courthouse were just hours away from the return as stormy daniels to the witness stand at that hush money trial? trump was cursing audibly and the court yesterday, during her testimony, we're gonna be joinined by my source, who was also inside that courtroom next
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skin at omni lux led.com we're here to get your sayyed in store. >> affairs. bribery, prostitution. >> why do we keep ending up here you can't write this stuff united states of scandal with jake tapper. now streaming on macs the adult film star stormy daniels left little to the imagination during her hours-long testimony yesterday, detailing her alleged sexual encounter with donald trump including how she swatted him with a rolled-up magazine that it has faced on it and a lake tahoe hotel room as they first met. >> even reenacting how she says that trump posed on the bed for her as she exited from the bathroom. details that were so explicit that judge juan vr schon had to cut her off multiple times and remind the prosecution to keep are answering the questions they'd asked her. it wasn't just what she said, but also how she said it. >> i was in the courtroom and
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she also almost seem to be taunting donald trump. >> he was eating away at the defense table, forced to listen to every word my source tonight was also inside that courtroom or old this one there every de new york times senior political correspondent and cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. >> and i mean, it's been over 24 hours, but i kinda feel like i'm still processing what we witnessed in there yeah. what i do for living requires words and i was still having trouble to come up with the words to describe what i saw. it is actually something of a travis dali's just for the public that there are no cameras allowed in courtrooms in new york for this reason. but it was it was incredibly intense. and as you said, a lot of the detail was excruciating. now, prosecutors made the argument that they needed to get into some of this detail to show what she would have said, had she told her story in 2016 and therefore, what trump was worried about coming out, that's their argument the judge had put pretty constrained parameters on what that was supposed to be. and as
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you said, her testimony blew past that over and over and over. todd blanche trump's lead defense lawyer objected several times. many of those were sustained. that's all stuff the jury got to see and the judge was clearly not pleased as we got to see out of the jury's presence. but it was it was a lot. i mean, it was it was talk about a condom. it was talking about they sexual position. it was it was it was i don't let me stop. >> yeah, i know. but it's hard to stop because you also want people to know what we heard and what we saw. and that's i think the difficulty is like we're just relaying what's now in the court record and you've reported before all this started, the trial the hardest part you had heard from sources of what trump was gonna have to part of this is not necessarily the outcome, but just sitting there and listening. yeah, there's the process. it is it is everything from having to be in this really decrepit courthouse in courtroom to having to listen to that, which and that was what a lot of people around trump were very
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concerned about. him sitting through. they weren't positive that stormy daniel's is going to get called, but they thought there was a chance of it and they were concerned about what level of lurid detail would be gone into todd blanche, his argument was this was done just to shock the prosecutors, argued otherwise, i think the defense had one of its best de is yesterday because susan nechele in her cross-examination and she's not done with cross-examination. other resume tomorrow. >> she did get some dense into stormy daniels story, but does it ultimately matter? >> i don't know because we don't know how the jury is viewing this. and at the end of the day, stormy daniels still told the details of that early encounter the way she's told it before the way she is told it in various forums and at the end of the day, that is what underlies this case, not other specifics related to whether she wants to make money or whether that is going to be the defense argument is that she is out to get money sure that the jury will necessarily see trump as a victim here yeah. >> and one, the question of
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whether the trump team wants to revisit those those details that we heard. he's posting today. he has his gag order in place, but he's kinda basically going around and saying sleazebags learn lives in drifters were allowed to say anything they want white he's asking this new york appeals court to speed up the appeal on his gag order i mean, it must be incredibly difficult for him to not be able to comment on her testimony. >> i think i think we're we're saying that. >> i mean, i think that we're seeing every day that he is having trouble not commenting on her or her testimony we talked about the more graphic details, but there were other aspects of this testimony that were really striking, including stormy daniels getting asked about a truth social post where he calls her horse face. there was another moment where she points to identify him on the stand while she's on the stand and while he's at the defense table, it was just all it was all very intense. it was it was riveting. this was a confrontation that has been in the making for many, many years. she actually got in while i think the defense had
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some very good moments in the afternoon for what they were trying to do. >> she did come across. >> well, at points in the afternoon where she was defending herself. so at one point, susan nicholas said something under the effect of usto to make a lot from this in terms of money. and she said it's also cost me a lot. and i think that that might resonate with jurors because the whole case that the prosecutors are telling is that people who come into contact with donald donald trump, whether it's stormy daniel's, or michael cohen end up suffering the moment when she stood up and identified him it felt like every ounce of oxygen was sucked out of that room i mean, it happened kinda quickly, like in the middle, she's already been testifying about ten minutes when she stood up to do it? >> yes, that was certainly one of many moments that i thought felt that way. there were other moments to and it was there was a moment sort of disbelief and i know we've clearly both articulated some level of xhaka. what we were hearing yesterday, not chocolate. it happens is shocking being their hearing this set on the stand with the former president united states feet away but that was one of those moments
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where it was oh, she really is going ahead with this and there was a moment early on, as before she came to the stand and the lawyers for the defense and alerts for the prosecution were debating with the judge about what could be allowed in. and justice more sean was very clear. i'm allowing a very narrow strip here and susan hoffinger, the prosecutor who was questioning stormy daniels so it's something to the effect of, well, i have to have to be able to ask these questions. we do need to know xyz we didn't quite know what that meant and it can very clear what that meant very early on. but there was there was much more to the testimony than just the bit we have talked about. >> and also speaks to the years of denials from him. i gave him no, we'll be back there tomorrow. thank you. >> more to come on. what to expect tomorrow in court, including new reporting on what the defense plans to do with their cross-examining stormy daniels, also, how all of trump's trials keep getting delayed all the other ones, at least t's never a good time
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heart of why a hush money payment was made in the first place for more on what we could see tomorrow. i'm joined tonight by david kelly, a former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. i mean, what do you think the defense does when she gets on the stand tomorrow's isn't a quick cross-examination is a wrap-up or the drag it out i think there's been some more time with their susan nicholas. i mean, there's there's a reason why susan is doing it and not todd and they're looking to not offend people, but they're trying to make her look really bad. i think the challenges is that her appeal is the fact that she's not appealing as a form of perspective, i mean, that's what you're trying to paint here. you're not trying to make this look like some lovely person. >> she's not and they don't hide from that. >> so i'm not quite sure what more the defense can accomplish here, but i think that to drag it out a little bit more is probably going to be a little overwhelming you'll see a little bit more cross-examinati on, but remember the
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prosecution gets to do some redirect examination and clean some things up. >> and so they'll get that chance stormy daniels and michael cohen were the last two big blockbuster witnesses. how quickly do they move to put him on the stand or does this make them? tamp down that. what does that look like? well, look, i don't think this prosecution team has not drag things out. >> they've done things very quickly. the judge has controlled the courtroom very well. so this is moved really a pace i don't know that there's much more to do here. they'll do some more documents stuff. i think after ms daniels finishes her testimony, but then it's time for cohen. and i think from a prosecutor standpoint, there's a temptation to thank cheese. do we really need given everything the way it's come in? do we need cohen? the problem is that they set this thing up. they've going to have to put cohen on, but i'm saying this is denotation to think. maybe we don't need them. they're going to put them on. and i think that will be they may put another witness on after cohen just to kinda now
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turning down? but to say, we thought stormy daniels was was the testimony was insane to just witness and intense. i mean, michael cohen would be even more so, but overall, we've been watching trump's trial and thinking about the fact that there are no cameras in the courtroom, i was thinking about the other cases that he's facing because in the last few days is we've been covering minute by minute of the new york trial. judge aileen cannon in florida, has indefinitely delayed his classified documents case georgia, the appeals court there said they would hear trump's request to try to get do the district attorney fani willis, disqualified i mean, who knows when this affirm court's going to make their decision on immunity. every other of these major cases all delayed now yeah. but, you know, look, the fani willis case, the georgia case, i didn't see that as likely to get going anytime soon. in any event, there's a lot of defendant's a lot of things to accomplish. it's not moving really a pace so i don't think that that's a big deal. the
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case in florida, the federal case with the classified documents. i don't get that. i think they've made that case too complicated. the question is whether or not the items are classified. the documents, some of the documents, whether or not it relates to defense material, but overall, it doesn't really he matter what the substance of the documents are, where they classified or then i classified. >> also, there's easy motions that the judge's easy stuff that she's just not moving on and the question lots of folks raise is this because of some sort of political bent of the judge or is it in competence? >> is it a fear to try to tackle these issues because she's not confident in her ability to do it. we've heard reports about her inner chambers. she doesn't really have the support she needs so there could be a whole host of factors here, but the bottom line now she is not moving things the way any judge would try to move, even as you point out, there's some very simple motions that could get decided
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here. so it really the thing that concerns me most at it undermines the credibility and doesn't instill confidence in the judicial system. >> it's remarkable. david kelley so we'll see what that cross-examination we would like tomorrow. thank you for that up next you gotta just kinda here this one to believe it, because apparently the dead worm that wants eight part of rfk juniors brain i'm not kidding here. this is a health issue flagged by the presidential candidate himself, more next the whole myth has to be re-imagined you didn't know whether you were next they were both tied up? yeah. i was called in and i saw what turned out to be the big start heist in history from gold medal winning icon to a pariah would really happen with
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third party can do could potentially be somebody is rfk jr. who obviously has a whole bunch of things going on. and this just adds to it, caitlin, but the thing i'll point out is he's actually doing pretty gosh darn good in the paul's, right. i mean, look what he's pulling nationally, he's pulling out get on average 13% of the vote. that's the best for a third-party candidate at this point in the cycle since ross perot in 1,996 and more than that, remember the threshold to make the debates is 15%. he's right there. all he needs to do is slightly better and he could be on the stage, so we can actually see him on the debate stage. >> absolutely. this is very plausible thing. i mean, look, if you look at his paul's, you might have suspected as more people have gone an oem that is pulling might have gone down a little bit, but the fact is it's basically holding in the low to mid teens, so only needs this a little bump in the cycle, maybe trump and biden lose a little bit of favorable ratings. and he could be at that 15% and he could be on the debate stage. >> and i should note that his campaign said this issue with the dead worm and his brain was resolved more than ten years
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