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three, 60 is seen in exclusive president biden >> one-on-one for the first time, threatening to withhold certain us weapons if israel invades rafah. also tonight, breaking news after is defense see may now want to maximize her time on the stand good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news president biden today is that with cnn for rare exclusive interview during a stop in the battleground, state of wisconsin. >> he talks about the election which we'll get to in a moment, but he's making headlines right now for what he said about israel's ongoing boeing war with hamas, which has become the focal point of college protests in the and abroad. >> the interview comes with cia director bill burns and middle leaves to this moment, working on a ceasefire, you're speaking with cnn's erin burnett, president biden for the first time, laying out a new condition for aid to israel
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i want to ask you about something happening as we sit here and speak and that of course is israeli striking rafah. i know that you have paused mr. president shipments of 2000 pound us bombs to israel due to concern that they could be used in any offensive on rafah have those bombs those powerful 2000 pound bombs, been used to kill civilians in gaza civilians have been killed in gaza as a consequence of those bombs and other ways in which they go after population centers i made it clear that if they go into rafah, they haven't gone in rafah yet. >> if they go into rafah, i'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with rafah, to deal with the cities that deal with that problem we're going to continue to make sure israel is secure in terms of iron dome and their ability to respond to attacks like came out of you
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and the least recently but it's it's just wrong. we're not going to we're not going to supply the weapons and artillery shells use that have been used three shells as well. yeah. i told her shelf so just to understand what they're doing right now in rafah, is that not going into rafah as you don't have they haven't gotten in the population centers where they did is right on the border. >> and it's causing problems with right now in terms of with egypt, which i've worked very hard to make sure we a relationship and help. but i've made it clear to bibi and the war cabinet. they're not going to get our support. >> if in fact they go on these population centers he is now seen in chief national security correspond to alex more quiet, also, two former white house communications director is kate bedding field, who served in the biden administration on this far griffin served in the previous semester situation. >> allosaurus. all. how do you think these comments are gonna be received by israel? because netanyahu has made very clear how important they believe
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going into rafah is yeah. i don't think they didn't go down very well interest and when they take full stock of what biden is saying here, and i really think that this is the most significant shift in this question of american aid for israel to date, biden saying very clearly the us will no longer send some of the biggest weapons at the us has been sending to israel, bombed artillery, et cetera. if israel goes into those population centers in rafah. now earlier today, anderson, we heard from the idf, they essentially had dismissed the hold-up of one american shipment of bombs essentially saying that they're working through it. this is just a temporary delay, but biden making very hey, clear here that there is a change in american policy. and that if, that, if israel does not heed this american warning to not go into rafah without a more comprehensive plan that american support will stop on the offensive front. now, i've spoken to members of the administration tonight. us is making very clear they are
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differentiating between offense if and defensive weapons. biden saying the same interview that they will continue to help defend israel as we saw with the attack by iran against israel, they will continue to help with the iron dome system. but there's now a major question of how much longer the us will continue support israel offensively, if essentially israel defined is the us and goes into rafah, goes into these population centers. it's a very, very stark warning. it seems like there may be room, some sort of wiggle room here because the administration, the vitamin is thracian has for a long time now been urging restraint from israel in any action in russia, in rafah and elsewhere and trying to sort of move them more to sort of more targeted special forces type operations to try to root out or kill members of hamas or obviously search for hostages. israel has called their operation in rafah strategics reich's which may just be a
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branding exercise. but if israel was willing to maybe adopt more the tactics that the biden ministration wants. perhaps there's wiggle room there we've been told this for months, anderson, i was a newsreel back in december when jake sullivan, national security adviser said that they anticipated that israel would start switching to what he was calling lower intensity phase of this war, expected in january. and that's simply hasn't happened. so this is a shut cross the bow by the biden administration. you could hear the president there in that clip saying that essentially this rafah operation hasn't started in earnest. and us understands that israel does want to take that part of the rafah border with e egypt to better control that israel certainly sees this rafah operation limited as it is right now as a way to pressure hamas to perhaps agreed to a ceasefire deal. but anderson the israel has made no bones about the fact that they do plan to go into rafah, that there are four hamas battalions there that remain and they can't radek kate hamas without
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going in while the us does disagree and says, you have to go in and a much more strategic way, much more tactical way here the president is saying that adding to that, we're not going to give you the weapons to do what it is that you want to do. adding to that pressure to go in much more tactically, anderson you think back to prison, biden's first visit to israel after october 7, and the israelis greeted that with joy and amazement over the, the the support that biden was offering israel for for what they were calling a total war against. >> this is obviously a big change obviously the president is under extraordinary political pressure here in the united states and globally, what, what do you think of this line? he's now drawing well, i think as somebody who worked for joe biden for a long time and watched him up close making these kinds of foreign policy decisions. i think contextually, it's important for people to understand that
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he doesn't make these decisions lightly. he doesn't make them in a knee-jerk way. you've you've been discussing for the last few months, he and his his team have been working directly with the israelis to push them to a more tactical approach to rafah. this is something that has been a priority for him as he's worked to try to discourage the israelis from from conducting conducting raids that have, have left such broad-based casualties. so this is not something, this is not the kind of thing that joe biden says or does solely under political pressure i think this is a reflection of where the conflict has moved over these last seven months. now, you've seen him consistently put tried to put public pressure, particularly over the last few months on netanyahu. and the israeli gov government to try to minimize casualties. and so this is from what i can see, this is simply the next step. i mean, this is him saying we're going to put action behind our words here. so i think as people are absorbing this and
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kind of understanding why joe biden is making this decision now, i think it's important to have that context that that is the way that he approached which has this kind of decision-making. and for him, it's less about the political pressure, you know, if it were solely about the political pressure, then you would have seen movement from him over the last few weeks as pressure was ramping up on these college campuses. but that's just that is not the lens that he uses to make these kinds of consequential decisions where he's weighing main painting american security interests in the region standing by our ally in israel and simultaneously trying to reduce the suffering that we're seeing in gaza. those are complicated things to balance. and so he's trying to strike that. balance. >> alyssa, israeli officials have made the point repeatedly that any weakening or any lack of resolve shown by the us and support of israel plays into the hands of hamas, certainly at the negotiating table makes it less likely. i mean, there are a lot of israeli officials who will tell you or believe
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that having a strong military response encourages negotiators, encourages hamas to make concessions. >> well, an alex alluded to that. i think this is being announcement by joe biden's being panned by the right, the center, and even some moderate democrats, john fetterman called it disappointing because a key part of the rafah invasion is using it as leverage as a ceasefire is attempting to be negotiated. and what wasn't talked about in depth in this interviews. there are hostages are also still american hostages. so this sort of standoffish as though america doesn't have a vital role in this, i think is not being received well politically. but joe biden runs into the could run into alienating the left who is not going to buy the idf is not in rafah. you see the explosions, you see that they are physically there in parts of it though on the border but then on the center right, the nikki haley's swing voters who will determine this election, feeling like he said he had an ironclad commitment to israel. yet this does not bring of an ironclad commitment alex, i mean, in terms of israel's response to this, they have
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repeatedly netanyahu has repeatedly made the basically downplayed the civilian casualties and they, or they talked about the numbers of hamas fighters that they claimed to have killed. >> there's no way to independently verify that and the number of civilians killed as well. obviously, the images coming out of gaza are horrific. the number of children there's so many children in the population, so many women being killed in, we see these videos every single day. they are horrific to watch i'm wondering what you made it a moment that present biden acknowledged that civilians have been killed in gaza as a consequence of some of these 2000 pound bombs us has supplied by israel. >> i mean, it's a statement of fact it is a statement of fact. >> i think it's a remarkable admission. i mean, this has been the biggest criticism by people who want to see this war ends as soon as it's possible that the us continues to supply israel with a weapons. who, and in turn, they continue to carry out these strikes that have led to this enormous death toll. i understand you're absolutely right that israel has kind of
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quibbles with those figures. but even if you look at israel's figures around 15,000 hamas fighters killed your store we'll talking about around 20,000 civilians, most of whom are women and children. so what you hear in that moment is the president really reckoning with the death toll that has happened in many ways at the hands of american weapons. and he said very pointedly, it's just wrong and so he kind of up certainly wants to see that the killing with these american bombs and the us has talked repeatedly about how the civilian death toll is too high. but in tel, now they really haven't taken any steps to constrain israel. >> we've had this remarkable moment for the past few months where american bombs had been dropping on israel. >> and at the same time, american aid has been dropping in israel. the pentagon is going through extract to extraordinary lengths to build this pier off the coast of gaza to get aid in. and so it's just
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been this from markle contradiction but you by the way, just you said it, aid and bombs dropping in israel been dropping in gaza, human sorry, into gaza. >> yes, the aid drops coming from the planes, from the americans, aid coming in from the sea, from land so it's just been, it's just been incredible enter. so we should note this is extremely symbolic and this is a real signal to israel, of course, israel could plow ahead head and carry out an operation in rafah on the ground. and from the sky, they do have enough weapons to do that. they do have enough of these bombs, but this is a strong message to israel that we are no longer going to send these weapons. if you go into these populated areas and continue to kill civilians and more quirky fitting fill alyssa farah griffin. thank you. now, more breaking news and other attempted republican on republican mutiny on capitol hill, republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and trying to unseat house speaker mike johnson and seeing her temp gets smacked down. now the question is, what just happened
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here? speaker johnson is just weighed in and so was the former president on a social network urging republicans defeat her motion to vacate the speaker's chair but only posting it at 5:59 p.m. several minutes after the vote took place cnn's melanie zanona has been talking to house members and her sources joins us now with the latest. so how did house republicans react when greene called up the resolution and how quickly did they move to kill it? >> well, i can tell you anderson that gop leadership was completely caught off guard. i'm told that margin can you taylor greene did not give advance notice to johnson that this was coming, but johnson knew all along that it was possible she would force a floor vote on this motion to vacate this week, so he did have a plan in place which was to immediately scheduled the vote the moment that she called it up. and that is exactly what he did. and as you saw, that motion was easily defeated with the help of democrats. but even though it did easily fail, republicans are still furious with marjorie taylor greene for following through with this threat and some are even calling for consequences. take a listen right now. we're all
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focused on making sure that this institution continues to function. and i think today we showed that were tired of the chaos and the nonsense and this pathetic rerun of of an awful syndicated tv series, sydney just to come to a close, i think that there needs to be ultimately there needs to be accountability. i don't think people should be some people here think they're more important than everyone else. they are not in there needs to be accountability for that. >> look, i think it's idiotic moscow. >> marjorie has lost her mind clearly the result of the space laser there needs to be consequences including the loss of committee assignments, chip, roy and thomas massie, who served on the rules committee, should both be removed immediately now, johnson has not advocated for any consequences, but he has said that they need to change the house rules next year, and he also said off the house floor today that he hopes after this vote they can put all these messy fights that have defined the 118th congress behind them. >> finally, she'd had a bunch of meetings with johnson over the last couple of days. >> did she give a reason for trying to force this vote? >> there was some sense that
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she was trying to find an off-ramp trying to find some resolutions, perhaps because donald trump himself, i'm told called her over the last week and urged her to back down not fall through with this. so she did meet with johnson several times this week. she laid out a list of demands in exchange for backing down, but johnson was in no hurry to make a decision and he's also very clear that he was not willing to negotiate with her. he was just willing to hear out her ideas. so ultimately, she decided to pull the trigger today, which is the last day of the house is voting this week. and so we'll see whether she can continues to force these floor votes in the future, but she has not ruled out doing so. anderson is known to thank you. coming up next new developments in the hush money trial and the former president is fighting its the gag order limiting what he can say about it. new details as well as about the defense's fresh willingness. it seems to keep stormy daniels on the stand longer. despite everything she said to prosecutors yesterday or maybe because of it also, my conversation with whoopi goldberg about her loss in the space of just a few years of her mom and her brother effect their deaths had on her& remarkable stories you tell us about in her new book, bits and
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former president's challenge to his gag order as you know, he's already been cited with contempt ten times for violating and it has warned he could face jail time if he doesn't again, is attorneys earlier today asked the appeals court to expedite their ruling and whether the gag order passes constitutional muster now, before that happens, stormy daniels, we'll be back on the stand tomorrow for another day of cross by the defense tonight. what that might look like, what the defense could try to exploit and what tools are available to prosecutors for containing any damage from a witness who so far has been both compelling a times and problematic. joining me now, bestselling author and former federal prosecutor, jeffery thuban, cnn's kara scannell, who's been in court forever without this trial. former federal judge as shira scheindlin and cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig careless. >> what's the lives and the gag order? >> send me this filing today asking the appeals court to expedite their decision on whether the gag order was constitutional or not. the appeals court came back and said briefs do by the 20th. now, prosecutors have said they expect to rest their case around. may 21, so it doesn't
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let's seem like there's going to be a ruling on this gag order while the prosecution is still calling witnesses. and of course that is the issue here, whether what donald trump can say about any possible witnesses. >> judge, what do you think the gag order? what do you think that there's never ending battle over the gag order it does seem to be a never ending battle, but do i do i think the appellate division will cut it back possibly. >> there are parts of it that i think are a little bit vague, a little bit not totally clear. they may try to pin it down a little little better. >> that's what i think. i don't think they'll overturn it. i don't expect that what they used to kind of organize the different well for example, you're not allowed to make comments about jurors but is it a comment about jurors to say this is a heavily democratic district that's an example that's always stood out to me. that's not really talking about the jurors. it's a fact that this district where the jurors are drawn from is heavily democratic and the trump got 12% of the vote. so i
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understand his change of venue argument from the beginning, he feels this isn't a venue for me get a fair trial, just like the government isn't truly happy anymore in florida so i understand that may be defining what it means to comment about jurors to somebody that could be a little bit pin down. it's just an example. >> i think we're talking client and maintenance here for the lawyers. i mean, trump is obsessed with this gag order. these lawyers are trying thank to get him acquitted in this trial. they do not need to be arguing about this gag order, which as you point out, any ruling will be after the trial. anyway, this is entirely his obsession. his pushing for political, not legal reasons. the idea that he's some sort of first amendment victim. but i am sure his lawyers have said to him, can we not spend time on this and instead spend time on trying to get you acquitted. but i think this is shows that this is trump's political i mean, to that end, do you think tomorrow that they are going to spend more time with serving daniel's and they might have
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otherwise. well, hey i actually think that they've gotten most of what they need out of stormy daniels she is someone who hates donald trump she acknowledges that she has a financial interest in the outcome of this case. she will make more money if donald trump is acquitted. what more do you need if they start asking her about her description of the sex between them, they're just going to let her repeat all of what she said. you know, i just think less is more i agree with that. i know we have do reporting at cnn, paula reid, i think due to error, right. oh, sorry. all right you've got so many stories that's how can i keep it straight? but we have no reported get cnn that they do plan to examine her for longer than they originally intended tomorrow. i think that's a mistake. it's a common lawyer mistake. we will hears out, plead guilty to this. sometimes do this where if a little bit is good, more must be better. >> and that does not apply especially in cross-examine they are off to a very good start in the hour or 90 minutes it's that they cross-examined
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stormy daniels the other day, pick up there, do another hour, just remind the jury that she's biased. >> she hates trump. she is desperate to see him behind bars. she's told conflicting versions of this story before leave it at that you don't need to go back in that hotel room. it's the last thing you wanna do. no. i agree with that, but i disagree with you in a way, it depends on the witness. some witnesses wear down and wear out. she made below it. if they keep her going for hours and hours, she made just say something that's very, very strange and affects the jury. i don't think this jury likes this moment. anyway, and the more she talks, the less they may likely one point about stormy daniels, it is worth remembering. >> she has been a witness in just two just in the building next door, year-old courthouse, where she was a witness against michael avenatti. >> she was the key witness in the case about him stealing from her and the jury loved they didn't jury believed her. >> i covered that trial and i saw her testimony and her demeanor is very different in that case. in this case, i think then i mean, that was the case about her financial records and not getting a her
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book advance. i felt she was very composed. she was very on top of her her business. she seemed like a savvy business woman and just it just was able to tell the story differently in this instance, she says seem more scattered whether it's more nervous, obviously the stakes are different here and it's a different type of issue. she's talking yes, it is about the payment, but it's also about her encounter with trump and she just comes across a little bit more uneasy with her question. were their answers and that she was trying to appeal to the jury in such a way that they did not her jokes didn't really land. she was trying to engage with the more than that didn't really strikes me is that she has an agenda. she is trying to get this this man convicted and that's coming through at least to me it her descriptions of the sexual encounter on the witness stand were different than in past a lot of past interviews. >> the one i did with her and 60 minutes, for instance, this time she said it was entirely consent. was it was consensual when i interviewed her. those really felt like of what i've gotten into this. she talked
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about blacking out, which she described as sort of losing feeling in her hands and stuff, not remembering certain moments of it. in fact, at one point, the prosecutor said something to the effect of like is that just a newly recovered memory which is actually a term that's used right do you think they will go after that? absolutely. that's how you cross-examine a story like this. you're not going to get stormy daniels to recant on the stand. she is not going to say and made it a lot. i don't think she i don't personally think she made it all up, but the way you undermine it. >> so you said you sat down with anderson cooper, you spoke to him for however long it was wherein there did you say anything about passing out where in there did you say anything about he was blocking the doorway, whatever it is. >> the other thing you do is she has made contradictory statement. she signed a statement in 2018 saying this a fair never happened. and i'm not denying it because i was paid hush money. i'm denying it because it did not happen. now, she will have an explanation. she says she felt pressured and guard and that's why she signed it. but this is the way real life cross-examination works. that's not all tom cruise getting a jack nicholson
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to admit he ordered the code red. >> i'm only with you halfway because i think you're right that the statement denying is a big problem for her and that is worth focusing on. but going over the sexual encounter even though there are what i would consider minor inconsistencies. i don't think if you are donald trump's lawyer, you want the jury thinking about what went on in that hotel room all the time or much time at all? >> do the money, do the bias do heard? fixating on how much she hates him but i would stay out of that hotel. i actually think i agree with you, but it'll be interesting to see whether donald trump's personal and political agenda compel his lawyers to get back into that. and there's already the risks that if they do go down that road, the prosecution has a whole lot more. they want to ask her and the judge already put the guard rail there, but he said it's off. if it goes there across karam. >> geoff, thanks very much. a gentleman as well. elie honig. thank you very much. we have mower now is seen in an exclusive interview with president biden. next is we
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absolutely free. that's k and oh, k to three he 69369. >> let's try this again. what do you see? >> my first step is to in easton, second championship charles not winning a championship kitty, let's try and stay positive or positive. he didn't win a ring oh, my god during president biden's interview with cnn, he spoke about college protests over israel's war against hamas and their anger over his support for israel. mr. president signs at college campuses some say genocide. joe any of us have gone to those campuses. sometimes we hear that can do you hear the message of those young americans? >> absolutely. i hear the message. look too. thanks first
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of all there's a legitimate right to free speech and protest there's a legitimate right to do that. every right to do that. there's not elysium legitimate right to use hate speech. there's not a lot legitimate right to threaten jewish students is not resume, right? to black people access to class. that's against the law us against the law let's demonstrations have been especially intense in michigan, a state biden won by less than three percentage points in 2020, which also features a high number of arab american voters. >> john king, recently returned to michigan to discuss the war and president biden with young voters there it's part of his ongoing series all over the map to experience the election through the eyes and experiences of voters in key voting blocs and battleground states. and john king joins us now. i mean, it is tough to overstate the importance of michigan. of michigan and of the younger vote and in michigan also you have the double whammy of the arab american and the muslim vote giant in the state we were there five months ago. it was bad et for the precedent that
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was at the beginning of this. we were just back there, anderson and i would say is worse because this is literally doubled trouble for the president. want you to look at this as the arab american news, and it talks about the protests on campus. you see here intifada on campuses, they use intifada is a word that really angers jewish students, makes them feel unsafe. but you see it here in durban, american newspapers here, it hurts the president, young hung voters with arab americans in a state like michigan. they were keita was big win and right now, six months to election day, giant trouble protest the mid the commencement celebration time-honored tradition on campus but this one is complicated jake gray and usca jealous aki are now university of michigan graduates and now former co-presidents of the college democrats proud their school as part of a global statement was in my application letter that this was a campus of like a history of protests, a rich history of social justice movements. >> yeah, you worried though
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about months of war and death, months of student anger at a president who can't afford to lose michigan how much is it going to hurt the precedent? >> hours much he decides, yes that starts with calling for a ceasefire for listening to his student voters across the country. this is from our first visit five months ago, protest against biden's handling of the israel-hamas conflict. we're just beginning fair to say, your glad the election is not tomorrow the election was nearly a year away, then six months away now, michigan is up for grabs, and i did not think i'd be saying this right now. and i wish i wasn't saying that's right. yeah. but i am genuinely concerned about which way michigan will go. >> both hope a summer away from campus protests this helps younger voters see a bigger picture. >> i'm certainly not voting for the guy who is in court right now and who incited an insurrection and put three extremists on the supreme court, who they're four took away rights for the first time in history. who's demonized the
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lgbtq community of which i'm a part of that right now. things are wrong. some friends talk about staying home or voting third party. >> hundreds of thousands of people in gaza and across palestine have been displaced, have been starved, have been killed. i think it really does come down to people's own judgments on the motivation the president, oh, what a cute boy summer matkin is home in suburban detroit, processing freshman year at wayne state. can you talk about politics for me back in november? big reservations about the president's age, but zeroed out if the choice was biden or trump i'd go biden. now, not so sure. no matter how many taylor swift references you make, you will never understand us. >> my thing is, i think he has handled everything with israel and palestine terribly still leaning biden, but part of a consequential debate with friends. >> a lot of our generation is also considering going third party, but i kind of fear it's going to what up the votes and end up having it fall back on trump, which i wouldn't want to happen.
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>> maya siegmann began the school year, likely biden and it. definitely biden happy with her grades, even more happy. it is over is terrifying. >> is terrifying the escalation of other campuses has made me fear for my kansas and he's been offers nuance often missing when politicians discuss the campus protests. no problem with calls to end the killing or the speed up humanitarian aid. but fear when she sees banners like this, the intifada was a violent armed uprising targeting jews you're wearing your star david. you ever taken, taken it off? >> i did. i took it off actually for about a week or two and then i put it on four or five months ago, never took it off a fierce supporter of israel, but are fierce critic of prime minister benjamin netanyahu. i personally don't agree with how he is operating. i think that he is trying to prolong the war he would ebrahim ghazal also speaks with nuance. he is no fan of hamas and acknowledges israel's right to respond to terrorism. we don't want human rights
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violations if you're going to conduct war conduct it within the rule of law. >> international law. that's all people are asking for nothing more. >> dissolve this in two groups, critical to biden's michigan math, a younger voter and an arab american. he just wrapped his first year at wayne state law school. >> it's been stressful just seeing people that look like me. i just human beings, seeing human beings on my, on my phone screen, being killed day in, day out. and what's worse as an image? american, i have to see my government funding so stressful. >> a biden voter in 2020 who says the president is in deep trouble in detroit, dearborn, and other michigan communities where arab and muslim americans number in the tens of thousands with older people, i would definitely say they're not voting for biden for younger voters were stuck in this since that it's biden or trump. the only reason i haven't closed the door is because i think he still has an ability to change course and set a precedent for the future. >> because all summer goals
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take a break then starting the third party candidates and watch to see if the president truly does change course. or if the encampment men's are still a thing. when classes resume in the fall john? >> no. i mean, of all the battleground stage, michigan, his win was the most comfortable, i guess. you look at wisconsin was only 20,000 votes. is that enough in michigan to offset these problems you out, it's a great question. my answer would be, as of today, no, pennsylvania he was 80,000 wisconsin michigan was 154,000. he's ceo, maybe the president has a little bit wiggle room here, but look at this, trump's share, 20 47%. trump share 2018 when he won 40, 70 are 48%. if you round up both times, the third party candidates heard hillary clinton the question is, will they heard president biden? so let's come forward to the democratic primary. remember, uncommitted was on the ballot and the primary, that was the protest vote against president biden. it was largely students. it was largely muslim and arab american saying we don't like your policy here. where was it? i wayne county where it's in wayne county? dearborn.
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dearborn heights hamtramck. this is where tens of thousands, more than 100,000 arab american muslim american voters live here in wayne county. it's also where at wayne state university is uncommitted, got 17% of the vote, washed it our county next door, it move over. that's an orbit that's the university of michigan. that's the students it's uncommitted, got 17.2% of the vote. so if the president wants to recreate this in 2020, the presidential when he has to make up, you heard the student at the any room because i'll major policy shift. he's got six months. he's in trouble right now, but there's todd, john king, thanks so much. appreciate it coming up. machaut would whoopi goldberg. >> i'm living with grief for an upcoming my podcast. >> all there is when she lost her mom and brother within five years one another. she writes in her new memoir that she felt alone missing the only people who truly knew her in a powerful moment with me would be answers the question she asked in her book, why did you all leave me here? >> that's next look.
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brother, and me the book is out this week. it is beautiful. i recently spoke to her for a future episode of my podcast. all there is the full interview will be available in the next season is released. not sure when that's going to happen, but soon. but i wanted you to hear some what what be had to say you wrote, you said your mom died, you said she prepared me for this day, but i would never be ready. i wasn't ready to not be her kid. and you also said it took a while. i'll settle in on me that my mom's death has been the most devastating experience of my life. it was an acute trauma, is still think about her every single day. >> yes. but i figured out because one of the reasons i i also thought i should read the book. it's because i didn't think i was responding correctly i couldn't figure out why i couldn't figure out why i wasn't more devastated and then a couple of days ago i figured it out a couple of days
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ago. i figured it out a couple of days ago there was nothing left unsaid with us so there was no there was no asked to find there was that thing that i've seen in movies where i see people go through. i didn't go through it because my experience was you know, i adored and loved you and you were the the center of my life and same with my brother. and we set it to each other all the time he said, i'm not in any rush to go wherever they went, but a lot of days i'm just sort of walking through it, getting where i need to go and doing what i need to do. >> i had no clue that things would change so dramatically for me once they were gone, was i so tethered to my mom and brother that i can't find my own bearing. it feels that way they were my homebase, my reality check because they both knew me from the start you also said it's not like either one could have done anything about dying. but from time to time, i feel like why did he all leave me here? yeah. i asked the i
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yeah. >> yeah. >> but the answer to that is because we have stuff we got to get done that's why we're not supposed to. >> this is not our time it's not our time. we got kids and grandkids and they need to know us. they need us. they need to know us that's why that's my belief but yeah i find myself asking that question. >> yeah. why did you leave me do it three of us i hope so realize when it has that that it's very much it's the question like the 10-year-old means asking. >> yeah, it's like the angry question about hard-hearted child dislike why did you all lee? yeah. no and i once
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flirted once flirted with thinking about leaving and then i thought how what a terrible thing that would be to do to my kid, to knowingly due to my cat who actually likes me she's a really good person and a fine woman and she's raised she and her husband have raised three fine, very bizarre children and why would you do that? >> why would you leave them with that so decided not yeah. >> i'm glad. >> yeah, me too. i think you know, when somebody dies people don't know what to say. and i i've been doing this bucket it's on a note to say a lot of times, but i'm better at it now, but what you're reading the book about writing to
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