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vehicles. have you ever missed an episode of the lead? you can listen to the show once you get your pi breaking news tonight in the trump trial refuses to modify the gag order the trump team urging the judge to intervene after stormy daniels salacious testimony about her alleged sexual encounter with trump. >> this as a new transcript of daniels combative cross-examination has just been released. that offense repeatedly attacking her credibility and truthfulness while trying to use because her work as an adult film star against her for the next hour, we'll take you inside the courtroom from gavel to gavel as the historic hush-money case unfolds breaking down all of today's most important developments and looking ahead to what's next.
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welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer with a special report in this room the trump trial today an. >> eventful de, breaking news in the trump trial kept by the judges back-to-back rulings just a short while ago, denying trump's request for a mistrial and for a modification of his gag order. let's go right to cnn's kara scannell. she's outside the courthouse in new york for us. kara walker's through the last-minute legal handling following the final testimony by stormy daniels those two rulings against trump's team, the judge denied trump's request to modify the gag order because trump's that he wanted to respond to stormy daniels testimony saying it was something that voters should hear, but the judge deny that, saying he needed to protect the integrity of these proceedings. >> as well as the witnesses
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past and future. the trump also asked for a mistrial, citing some of the details that stormy daniels gave her testimony, the judge put the blame on trump's attorneys saying that he couldn't understand why they were not objecting more especially when the prosecution asked her about the use of a condom. he said, i do not understand why trump's lawyer didn't do that. now, this comes after a day of combative testimony between stormy daniels and trump's attorney back on the stand. stormy daniels, the adult film star at the center, a former president donald trump's hush money case you'll see some very revealing things today. trump's lawyers, susan nechele, it spent over two hours attacking daniels credibility during thursday mornings cross-examination, necklace pointed to daniel's history of making pornographic films, saying you have a lot of experience making phony stories about sex appear to be real. daniels responded, wow, that's not how i would put it. the sex and the film's is very much israel, just like what happened
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to me in that room, referring to her alleged sexual encounter with trump, which he denies daniels previously testified that the night of their alleged affair, she felt faint while she saw trump posing on the bed in his t-shirt and boxers, necklace question why that scene would be so upsetting since she appeared in about 100 56 films, daniels testified it was because she was not expecting a man twice her age to be naked. necklace argued daniels gained publicity from her story in media appearances, like her interview on 60 minutes. >> and you had sex with him? yes. >> you were 27? he was 60. were you physically attracted to him? know. >> and she argued daniels profited off the alleged affair, pointing to a book deal and documentary daniel selling her gear on our website like hashtag team stormy t-shirts, and going on a strip club tour called making america horny again hey, which daniels testified she fought tooth and nail against, asked if she celebrated trump's indictment by selling merchandise like her
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st. of indictments, candle daniels retorted not unlike mr. trump. trump's lawyer trying to find inconsistencies in our story press daniels about her dinner with trump to do to go out for dinner that night? your gender in the room? yes. >> nicholas said daniels changed her story on tuesday. daniels testified they did not have dinner. daniels definitive ourselves saying just because they met for dinner does not mean they eight saying, i've maintained that i didn't see any food. it was dinner, but we never got food. the two also went back and forth about an old tweet danielson that said she is the best person to flush the orange turd down. necklace argued the tweet meant she'd be instrumental in putting trump in jail. daniels disagreed, saying, i don't see instrumental or jail anywhere in that. you're putting words in my mouth also on the stand, trump's former white house assistant, madeline west so hout, who's desk was right outside the oval office. the jury reviewed a contact list of people trump spoke most two,
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which was sent to western out that included cohen tabloid executive david pecker, among others west or, how testified about an email confirming a february 2017 meeting between trump and cohen in the oval office. prosecutors alleged cohen and trump worked out the reimbursement for the hush money payment at the crux of the case in the oval office that month she also confirmed that in her experience, trump like to read things before signing them west or how to explain that checks were regularly sent about twice a month from the trump organization to washington. she described bringing them in for trump to sign. and within fedex them back to the company now, we'll west or how did become emotional and cried on the sandwich and recounted how she lost her job at the white house, pseudo a youthful, indiscretions. she said she wrote a book because she didn't think donald trump was being treated fairly. and she also said that she spoke about the trumps relationship with millennia. his wife saying that they were very fond of each
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other. she recounted how trump would be in the oval office and millennia in the residence, he would call her and tell her to come to the window so they could wave to each other. now, one witness we learned that the prosecution is not going to call karen mcdougal, another woman who's david pecker, the american media publisher of the national enquirer. that was one story that they bought in that catch-and-kill deal. she will not be taking the stand. well interesting, very interesting. >> indeed, kara scannell outside the courthouse in new york verse. thank you very much. let's break all this down with our legal and political experts in elliot williams, i start with you. what's your reaction to the judge's decision to deny another long shot defense request for a mistrial. again, a mistrial is an error that happens at trial that is so grave that it jeopardizes the defendant's ability to have a fair trial. it can happen in the form of testimony that should have never gotten in or someone's behavior and trial that was so egregious here it was not out of the question that the judge would have denied this miss trial that was important for the defense to
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put it on the record and make the motion, but there's nothing that's different today than the last time he granit a miss they simply have not agreed with some of the rulings of the judges made, but there's nothing that has jeopardized the defendant's ability to get a fair trial here. >> interesting, michael moore the judge also denied a defense request to modify the gag order, if you will, the judge saying your clients track record speaks for itself here. i can take your word for it no big surprise either. >> then he he didn't do that in frankly, i think probably with the fact that the appellate court has sped out a briefing schedule on the gag order issue it's a good ruling for the defense to have to have him come out and say, i'm not going to change it at all because the argument they're making. and i think will make him their briefs is that it's too broad. it's too vague. >> and so this request would have given the judge a chance to sort of clean up the order and that might have given the appellate court enough confidence that they didn't need to do anything. >> but clearly, trump has tracked record of not following the gag order that's not been good for him but at the same
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time now the appellate court will look at it, say but the judge go too far in issue in the order in the first place, was it just you can't even mentioned the word juror. is that what it is that really what it says and i think they may find as too vague and orders employed katelyn and this was another very combative day for the cross-examination by the trump legal defense team, right? >> if very intense, questioning of stormy daniels by susan nechele as one of the defense lawyers for donald trump. throughout the morning, there were a lot of moments where the defense team tried to point out stormy daniels may have changed her story a little bit from what the story she was telling in 2018 when this first came out to what she's testifying under oath about donald trump's. so they're digging into all of these little little tiny things length of time it stormy daniels to talk about if they ate dinner the night of this alleged sexual encounter with donald trump, one of those exchanges is about an article
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published in 2018 telling story daniels story about this sexual encounter. >> and susan nechele, he says, okay, you claim that's in the article in the cold article and stormy daniels says, i don't know what's in the cold article, but my story hasn't changed. >> the defense lawyer, you didn't say that then did you stormy daniels? i don't know. >> susan nechele. and in 20 your story has changed, hasn't it? >> stormy daniels says, no, not at all. you are trying to make me say that it changed, but it hasn't hey, it's just a flavor of what this is like in the courtroom and what the jury has to think about as they're determining whether stormy daniels is credible. >> good point. let me follow up with me and melaka henderson. do you think the tough cross-examination of stormy daniels today benefited the defense? >> no, i don't think he had benefited the defense i think you'd probably benefited trump's ego. right? i mean, i think he came in today. we'd all heard that they were going to keep her on the stand and delve into things, and delve
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into details in some ways to try to damage her credibility. but i also think ought to try to turn her into a nasty woman, right? who would do and say anything who didn't have any credibility, who could who would make things up, who was after money. but she essentially said, yes, i'm sort of all those things. and i think made the case for the prosecution that donald trump probably would want to shut this person who's very charismatic, varies, are related the bowl in so many ways in terms of the way she was paring back and forth with the defense attorneys and even i think what she was saying there at some point she said during the testimony, i think on tuesday that she blacked out, right. when she was with donald trump his team wanted to go in and clean that up and she was like, yeah, she was not under any duress. this wasn't on a non-conceptual sexual situation at all. and even that, i think i think she probably really meant was that she kind of tuned in out in
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kind of went out of her body when she was having this dalliance with donald trump. >> i go even further than that and say that much of the cross-examination that happened today did not need to happen and shouldn't have happened look yes or tuesday when stormy daniels was cross-examination cross-examined the defense got two things out of her number. one, she made inconsistent statements. number two, they establish that she had or at least suggested that she had a financial interest in coming forward, that she made money hey, i'm sort of was in fact, they were kind of calling her a drifter, right? >> they did not need to go where they went today. the damage had been done yesterday and they actually shot themselves in the foot here with a couple of things. number one what qarrah had said in the report at the top of this, they ask a question and she said, well, you're trying to make money here and stormy daniel's response? yes. it's just like mr. trump boom, that's a devastating point that you just got mock the defendant. they're fundamentally another one was susan nechele has asked about the indictment and stormy
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daniels said, which indictment? there's a lot of indictments. and again, it's just they open the door to that and it really worked against them. >> it was interesting, michael, i thought that the defense tried various times to suggest that stormy daniel's profession, her professional is adult-film star major, much less credible. did they go too far? >> they went too far by even having her on the stand the second day what would have been a great strategy would have just stood up this morning. i said, we don't have any further questions. call it the prosecution flat-footed. there was nothing else to gain if they wanted to ask any question, it might have been. did you ever see or hear the former president direct anybody to falsify business records and she's going to have to say no. and that's really all that matters in the case. so by talking about her career as an adult film star, by talking about whether or not they ate dinner didn't eat dinner and they spanked with this or rolled up that whatever it was those things that has nothing to do with this case, but they've taken the bait and maybe it's because of trying to protect the ego and this reputational idea. but a great
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strategy would have just been, say basically send the message to the jury that the prosecution has put up stuff that doesn't even matter, and then went at the end the case, they can say you hadn't heard one witness say trump gave the direction, two, one of one of the most important things is a lawyers know when to say, let's get out of there and they did not do that. >> actually, they did do what you're saying? yeah. they one of the things that they've done with every witness nearly is to try and create distance between the person tests buying and donald trump himself they did that with stormy daniels. this is was the exact exchange. >> this is from the just released transcript. yes. yeah with stormy daniels. so susan necklace questioning again, you don't know what he was indicted for in this case. you don't have any idea and stormy daniels said business records and susan nechele said you know, nothing about the business records, right? stormy daniels replied, i know knowing about his business records, no. why would i i know nothing about his business records and she said you know, nothing about what he does or does not
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know about the business records, right. and stormy daniels said, no, that shouldn't be sum total of their comments, right? hey, you should out and stormy daniels so that's it, guys. >> everybody standby. there's a lot more coming up just ahead. we'll have more on those major rulings during the trial today, the judge refusing to change the gag order on trump and again, denying his request for a mistrial. we'll talk about that more with a former judge standby urine the situation that trump hush money trial gavel to gavel coverage away only cnn can bring it to you. >> legal insight, expert analysis, and real-time updates live from the courtroom follow the facts, follow the testimony, follows cnn someone needs to customize and save hundreds with liberty mutual white there's an, elevator only pay for what you need labor day hy choose asleep
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happened today? >> he's a corrupt judge, is totally conflicted joining me now retired judge ila doris cordell, who served on the superior court of california. judge cordell, thank you so much for joining us. as you heard trump is clearly unhappy with judge bursch sean's ruling. but in defending his gag order, judge merchan cited the quote, and i'm quoting him now, the very, real, very threatening attacks on potential witnesses end quote by trump was this the right decision on the part of the judge? >> thank you for inviting me, wolf, donald trump is never happy with any of the rulings of this judge, and especially with the gag order. did the judge do the right thing? of course, the judge did. the judge knew that if he were to lift the gag order with regard to him, his daniels that donald trump would go out and say horrible things about her an attacker. and of course basically endanger her life. and also, the judge was quite clear that if i allow you to do this, mr. trump, you're not
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going to be polite in your comments about her and it will basically raise an alarm for other witnesses scheduled to testify that when they're done testifying and the gag order is lifted, that donald trump's coming after them. now this was absolutely the right thing to do this trial is in a courtroom, not outside, and the fact that donald trump feels that, well, she said these things under oath and i should be able to attack are outside the courtroom no. >> no. >> he's really wants to turn this into this school yard brawl. >> hello a bunch of elementary school kids. >> that's not what this is about. and the judge did absolutely the right thing following a stormy daniels salacious testimony, trump's attorney once again, made a request for a mistrial. judge merchan denied that as well, saying and i'm quoting him now, the more specified fisa ms daniels can provide about the encounter, the more of the jury can weigh whether the encounter did occur. and if so, whether they choose to credit ms
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daniels story first of all, do you agree? >> oh, absolutely. this is the second request for a mistrial and it's important to note that the judge, when he denied the second request for mistrial, told them that he went back and reviewed his first order and he realized and remembered that during the opening statement of the process the cuter and this is what the judge said in court today, that they basically excuse me, the defense the opening statement of the defence basically said that there was no sexual encounter and that ms daniels was a liar so right there that open the door for them to establish that the encounter occurred. and also that she was credible. >> but for the defense taking a stance like this never happened. >> there wouldn't have even been the need for her to testify at all. they open the door and the prosecution does walked right in. >> interesting, stormy daniels
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hello, was on the stand over these past few days for more than seven hours total dinner testimony actually tie trump to the illegal activity alleged in this case. >> so she was on the stand that many hours and the approach to her was the blame and shame approach bike the defense. the only two important questions really that we're asked about the crime here, which is connecting donald trump to this cover up, where the last two questions, and basically she said i'd ever saw any documents and i have no idea what donald trump did or did not do. so those were the questions that were most important to this crime that was alleged and actually helped donald trump and they weren't asked until the very end. >> as you know, we also heard today from a former trump organization bookkeeper, another bookkeeper in a white house assistant. what do you see as the importance of their testimony so here we're back
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to the story the prosecution is telling a story and laying basically the foundation. >> so we're now another part. we have this sexual encounter. and if the jurors believed that that happened then there is a reason why payments were made. so that's what's happening next. and now, the key to the prosecution's case, wealth is follow the money and follow the documents. and that's really what this case eventually is going to be about. >> important points. judge ladoris cordell thing thank you very much for joining us and coming up. cnn's anderson cooper standing by to join us in the situation room. i'll ask them about a 2018 interview he did with stormy daniels, which once again came up during today's trial, plus, we're tracking new reaction to president biden's warning. the united states won't apply israel with specific weapons for a full-scale invasion of rafah in southern gaza. what former president trump is now saying about that biden
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to someone i'm sorry, i'm alone and i just heard the voice of my well, you put yourself in a bad situation and bad things happen, so you deserve this anderson, that interview with us, stormy daniels was brought up once again today and stormy daniels testimony what did you think? yeah. i mean, it was quite quite a bit today, both the prosecution side and the defense i think, you know, what the defense was trying to do was all throughout the morning, point out any irregularities between the various interviews that stormy daniels had done going all the way back to an integer magazine interview in 2011, which was in daniel's. words? she didn't go into a lot of detail she kinda glossed over detail. she didn't she didn't mention dumb trump's bodyguard, keith schiller is the one as being the point of contact that was brought up repeatedly by the defense and in the 60 minutes interview, stormy daniels, when she testified on tuesday, under prosecution question shining she brought up this idea of sort of feeling like she
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blacked out, although she didn't lose consciousness and she wasn't drugged in any way or had any alcohol. she said but the the way her her hands felt the way the room sort of her head felt like it was spinning that was new in the sense she had not said that before, certainly not in the 60 minutes interview in 2018. and i think that was something that defense was trying to hammer about. any kind of differences, what they would call inconsistencies from the as far as the prosecution is concerned, she may have focused on different details, but clearly, they did not feel that at her account was in the important ways really, any significantly different. >> we also learned late today, anderson that the prosecution is not going to call karen mcdougal how do you think that defense is taking that news? >> i don't think it's any surprise for the defense. i mean, i think it had the prosecution wanted to call and karen mcdougal, they would have done this sooner in terms of the timeline of the case that they are building and the
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chronological timeline of the events they could have done it much closer to the time that david pecker testified or keith davidson, who was also karen mcdougal's attorney as well. i hesitated to put myself in the mind of the fence because but the defense has to deal with both trying to to win their case& do what's best for winning their case. they also have to deal with a very difficult client in the former president i think every legal analyst who was watching this today, or at least a lot of them, certainly we're talking about how some of the questioning of the defense questioning of stormy daniels day siege seemed like it was more about appeasing donald trump who was clearly very upset and agitated. tuesday by the testimony, stormy daniels, repeatedly kind of nudging his attorneys to object more. it seemed like a number of the questions today are a number of lines of questioning were maybe coming from donald trump, himself less from a legal need as far as the defense team. so
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i'm sure they were relieved not to have to figure out a way to cross-examine karen mcdougal again it's not really germane to what the alleged crime that the prosecution has to prove is interesting. i, anderson cooper, as usual. thank you. you very, very much into our viewers don't forget anderson will be back later tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern with this program ac30 60. we'll be watching. and just before donald trump walked into court this morning, he took a moment to slam president biden, who told cnn's erin burnett, the united states will cut off certain weapons to israel if the idf, the israel defense forces, launches a full-scale invasion of rafah. listen back knees doing with respect to israel is disgraceful if any jewish person voted for joe biden is itself totally abandoned. israel and nobody
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can believe it all right, for more on this, i'm joined now by cnn reporter alayna treene and cnn chief national affairs corresponded jeff zeleny alaimo. >> i know you've been doing a lot of reporting on this. what's behind trump's? i think we can call it extreme rhetoric. right now. >> it definitely extreme rhetoric. and first, i just want to fact check some of what he said. one it's not fair to say that biden is abandoning israel, if anything. joe biden has been very firm in his support for israel. that's why we're actually seeing so many pro-palestinian groups and supporters attack him over this. we're seeing these protests all over the country because they don't think he's doing enough for the palestinian people. but then the other part of this as well as he also repeated anti-semitic trope that he often uses, which is that if people are voting for democrats have jewish americans, i should say, are voting for democrats and they're not sufficiently jewish. we've heard this from donald trump before. remember? beur shortly after the 2020 election, he repeatedly lamented the fact both in public but also in private, that he was annoyed that more
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jewish americans did not vote for him. and so this is something we've seen, but luck i think this is an opportunity that donald trump sees. he can seize on some of biden's comments. he recognized that there's lot of turmoil over this issue and biden has had a very difficult challenge with trying to navigate how much support for israel do we gave? we're seeing it play out in congress as well. and so i think trump's sees an opening here, where he can make himself the true supporter of israel. he often refers to himself as someone who he thinks thanks. did the most for israel while president that's something he believes there's questions about whether that's true or not, but that is how donald trump is trying to make this a good opportunity for himself to make himself see like he's the real defender and taking charge of this issue important point, delaying the thank you. >> jeff zeleny, the white house, is emphasizing president biden's continued support for israel ironclad. they keep using that word even at the same time, making it clear that the president disagrees with
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prime minister netanyahu is expectation to go into rafah where there was what, 1 million palestinians in that city in southern gaza. i want you to listen to john kirby, the national security council press secretary. what he said today the israeli government has understood this for some time now she's going to continue to provide israel with the capabilities that it needs. >> all of them but, he does not want certain categories of american weapons used in a particular type of operation. in a particular place. again it's pretty clear he's been consistent on that i know you've been reporting from several key battleground states lately. how is the president's position on this israel-hamas war impacting voters out there. what are you seeing? well, if it's very much an open question, i mean, the protests that we see, are they follow the president everywhere he goes that has become a soundtrack of this campaign. there's the pro-palestinian protests i'm solutes. there's no doubt about that. but an
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interesting piece of information this afternoon, this uncommitted group that started in michigan and then was also working in several states, urging and democratic primaries to vote uncommitted to express their protest of the president biden, they put out a statement. it's afternoon saying this marxist step forward here's a sense that this is viewed very positively on the progressive sayyed, the pro-palestinian sayyed, if you will. but it's not nearly far enough. and the difference here is we're talking about offensive weapons and defensive weapons. the president was very clear to erin burnett that he's going to still be a partner with israel. the us is going to maintain his long-standing relationship but simply not sitting via weapons inside a big city basically, but would still of course provide the funding for the iron dome. so this is still catching the president in the middle. here. it's not enough for some, it's too much for others and talking to advisers, they said it's his he needs to be seen as a strong leader here, but that's at conflict with his own instinct for
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empathy so that is what his challenges over the next five months. so again, it's not enough for some and the controversy, particularly from republican states, showed that it's far too much for others. >> yeah, it's interesting. a lot of republicans are going after president biden for his comments yesterday erin burnett on israel and an israeli cabinet member, ben-gvir he posted this on twitter. he's posted hamas hearts by how's this playing right now? >> well, i think republicans, especially those were seeing on capitol hill are taking their cues from former president donald trump. they are locked originally, as you said, wolf attacking joe biden over this part of that is because i think they see an opening. i know that when i talked to some republicans, they actually acknowledged privately the predicament that joe biden is in. but we've heard from many republicans today. i mean, how speaker mike johnson said that he hoped biden was having a quote, senior moment we heard from the chairman two of the foreign affairs committee in
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the house, as well as the house armed services committee saying that they were appalled by some of joe biden's comments to erin burnett last night on this, they're very much looking to donald trump and say, you know, we heard mike lawler this morning on cnn in an interview, he said we have to support israel as much as we can. and part of that support means allowing them to root out the problem which is hamas including if that means going into rafah. so that's the position we've seen from republicans. of course, this is an all republicans, but the majority of republicans, particularly those in office in congress, have been taking that kind of position very interesting indeed, mike lawler, republican from new york guard guys, thank you very, very much. just ahead, we take a closer look at the challenges for the defense and the hush-money trial, not at proving their case, but in having donald trump as a client spotlights 12th time in years, changing the world intimate look at how these champions
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are let signs at the white house and this is cnn donald trump's lawyers making failed attempts tonight to get his gag
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order modified and his case thrown out, prompting a very angry response from their client outside the courthouse. the hush money trial is highlighting the challenges for trump's attorneys, cns, tom foreman has bore whispering, cursing, passing notes, and elbowing his lawyers into action. that has been donald trump throughout the salacious testimony of stormy daniels and that's a problem according to some legal analysts, he is a difficult client. he is difficult person to do what so what kind of defense difficulties does that create consider trump's political strategy? >> i have a crooked judge is a totally conflicted judge. >> always grooming his public image. the former president who often says things outside court that are problematic inside his attacks on the jury witnesses in court, workers of cost him thousands and fines but also prompted prosecutors to withhold the early order of their case, depriving team
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trump of critical clues about what was coming. >> you have to set everything else aside and really focus on that and make sure that your lawyers are empowered to do everything they can to make sure that they defend you. >> second, trump is not a lawyer, but by many accounts, he tries to play one just based on watching this trial, there are things that you have to imagine a defense attorney would not have done. but for the client directing them to do that when things don't go his way, he lashes out at his legal teams once telling journalist and author bob woodward, i've got a bunch of lawyers who are not aggressive, who are weak and who don't have my best interest in mind, who aren't loyal. it's just a disaster in a deposition at mar-a-lago and opposing lawyers and trump stormed away after flinging papers across the table and there's more, donald trump doesn't like when his lawyers take notes, there was a meeting that he had at trump tower many, many years ago where he swooped in behind a junior
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lawyer at his conference table and crumpled up the notes. the guy was taking. >> there is also legal jeopardy involved. >> the legal expense that we was put down as legal expense. >> the whole hush money case centers on a former trump attorney taking illegal action allegedly at trump's behest and trump supposedly falsifying records to hide it. >> we've also seen defense attorneys and trial attorneys that represented trump charged with crimes. and there isn't really a retainer big enough to risk your law license and ultimately, your liberty it's all added up to a heavy turnover of trump's legal team. >> some big firms refusing to even take his cases& a dark joke and legal circles. what does maga stand for? making attorneys get attorneys wolf tom form and reporting for us, tom. >> thank you. coming up. we'll go back live to new york for more of what was like, what was what it was like to be inside the courtroom today is we're getting a new transcripts from
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release transcript from today's trump hush money trial. >> want to begin our coverage, right now with cnn's kara scannell. she's outside the courthouse, as well as our senior crime and justice reported katelyn polantz, she's here with me in this room. i caitlin, let me start with you this afternoon of the prosecution actually questioned a woman who used to work for trump just outside the oval office. what stands out to you from her testimony? yeah. so prosecutor rebecca mangold was questioning this woman a staffer of donald trump's madeline west, her house. >> and she testified about a meeting at the time when donald trump was president of the united states. so here's that questioning. rebecca mangold asked, what date was this email? now sent? madeline western house says february 5, 2017, so they're presenting this evidence of the email mangold asked and this emails from you, western? yes. >> mangled. is it sent to michael cohen at a trump org email address? >> madeleine western hot? yes what is the subject line of this email wednesday meeting. >> can you please read the
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content of the email to the jury? madeline western house says, yes michael were confirmed for four 30 on wednesday. what i need for you is the following full name it as it appears on your id, date of birth, social security number us citizen, yes or no? born in the yes or no current city and state of residence. thanks. madeline rebecca mangold asked, do you recall why you were sending this email? >> mr. cohen was coming in to meet with the president. >> the prosecutor asked, do you recall seeing him when he came to visit? not specifically. >> but did this visit ultimately occur and the worker at the white house for donald trump's sitting in the outside of the oval office says, yes seems like this might be some meeting we will hear more about as this trial goes on very interesting, very interesting. why do you think cara, this meeting potentially could be significant? >> so this is the meeting that prosecutors allege is when donald trump and michael cohen
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agreed to how cohen would be reimbursed for reimbursed for putting forward the $130,000 to stormy daniels. so by having this come in before michael cohen takes the stand, prosecutors are hoping that will help corroborate this meeting because michael cohen is the only one who is expected to testify about a conversation with dr. onald trump's about how he was going to be reimbursed and prosecutors are trying to tie donald trump to this reimbursement to the falsification of the business records, the crime that he is charged with so by having a record of this meeting taking place in the testimony by the woman who sat outside the door of the oval office saying that she does believe that the meeting did take place that will help prosecutors tried to corroborate michael cohen story when he does take the witness stand, the jury is already heard so much about his personality, but they will soon hear from me in south los very interesting. and caitlin, there was a section during the defense cross-examination of stormy daniels today that seemed aimed at painting her in a certain light. >> tell us about it. yeah, a
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very delicate exchange, but in intense exchange from defense attorney susan necklace questioning stormy daniels. she asked, let's just go back to the room. so you say you came out of the bathroom and he donald trump was on the bad in his t-shirt and boxer shorts, right stormy daniels? yes. >> and according to you, when you saw him sitting on the bed, you became faint. >> the room started to spin and the blood left your hands and feet? yes. yes. it was a shock surprise the defense attorney asked, just so i can be clear on what you were saying. you've acted and had sex in over 200 porn movies, right? stormy daniels replied 150 ish? yes. >> and there are naked men and women having sex, including yourself in those movies, right? >> yes. >> and but according to you, seeing a man sitting on a bad in a t-shirt and boxer shorts was so upsetting the you got lightheaded blood left your hands and feet and you almost fainted right? stormy daniels said yes. when you are not expecting a man twice your age to be in their underwear? i have seen my husband naked almost every day. if i i came
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out of the bathroom and it was not my husband and it was mr. trump on the bed. i would probably have the same reaction and the defense attorney asks, and that made you feel like you were going to faint. and stormy daniels said, absolutely. if i came out of the bathroom and so on, older man in his underwear that i wasn't expecting seeing there. yeah. so the jury heard heard that revisiting of that scene today. >> very interesting. thank you very much. kaitlan kara to both of you appreciate a very, very much. and we'll be right back with more news. >> from pub in their step to shine in their coats.& people switch their dogs food to the farmers dog, the effects can seem like magic but there's no magic involved it's just smarter, healthier pet food. >> it's a main real food can do did you not taking xyz all at night release allergies while you sleep? so you wake refreshed for more productive day get 24 hour continuous relief that does not fade.
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