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maria: good thursday morning, thank you for joining us this morning. i am maria bartiromo, thursday may 9, your top stories, 6:00 a.m. on the east coast, president trump on trial, stormy daniels is back on the stand and former president trump hush money trial after making a scene on their first day of testimony with contradicting statements trump's team is reportedly planning a longer cross-examination after judge motion admitted part of her testimony were irrelevant details to the case will bring you alive report covenant. rocket this morning indicated a decline at the start of trading, were looking at hours lower for stocks across the board as we look ahead to the economic data as well as earnings, jobless claims that 8:30 a.m. eastern state with us for that, the bank of england every decision is out at 7:00 a.m. this morning we have mixed markets in the eurozone and as you can see some

gains in some areas of germany but the others are lower this morning. , yesterday markets were mixed, the dow was up for a six data row capping the longest winning streak of 2024 the s&p 500 snapped a winning streak in the nasdaq slipping for a second straight session. in asia overnight markets finished like this, here you have a mixed story overnight the biggest loser was south korea down on the session, jodi the conversation only long strategic wealth partner mark tepper assistant secretary of the treasury and podcast host monica crowley and former prosecutor from acting ice director and dhs assistant secretary jonathan fahey. "mornings with maria" is live right now.

♪. maria: time for the hot topic of hour president biden tardiness economy in a cnn interview yesterday, watch this. >> consumer confidence may be no surprise it's near a two-year low with less than six months to go to election day, are you worried you're running out of time to turn that around. >> if you look at the michigan survey for 65% of the american people think they're in good shape economically and they think the nations not good shape and there personally in good shape the polling data has been wrong all along, how many of you do a pull in cnn and how many do you have to call to get one response, the idea that were in a situation where things are so

bad and with creating more jobs and were in a situation where people have access to good paying jobs, we have the strongest economy in the world, let me say again in the world. >> although gdp was far short of expectations. >> look at the response of the market, overwhelmingly positive, no president has have the run that we've had in terms of creating jobs, it was 9% when i came to office. >> he said it twice in the wo world. >> emphasizing the d at the end, which could be appropriate for his economy although they gave him an f the other day. a couple of things, he continues to claim that he is creating jobs, let's fact check that and look at bls statistics which actually say year-over-year we have lost full-time jobs, thank you, president biden for ensuring that we have plenty of

uber drivers in doordash delivery people, that's what's happening, maureen people are working more jobs so they can make ends meet that's not indicative of a stronger economy, and about inflation, inflation is not coming down a tree accelerating. when he took office in january 2021 inflation was 1.4%. it peaked at 9% in june of 2022, that is 17 months in that's a 3.5%. as soon as he took office inflation accelerated and americans are not doing well. maria: aaron vermette mentioned the 1.6% growth i mentioned this to stephanie palm boy said out of 1% growth it was one point to percent spending on consumer spending and housing healthcare and insurance but that's inflation. >> that is certainly inflation and not submit to that were deficit spending a trillion dollars over 100 days in order to fuel the middle school economic growth.

>> order number he's getting this information is completely off-the-wall. when you look at polls and it's been true for over a year, two thirds of the american people are living paycheck to paycheck and three quarters of the american people have a negative view of the overall economy and three quarters of the american people blame joe biden because now we have back-to-back presidencies where we had a robust economy with robust growth, unemployment at or near highest workloads under president trump and little to no inflation, president trump did that with the pro-growth agenda tax cuts, regulatory reform trade deals and unleashing a great energy sector, joe biden did the exact opposite now we have the economic disaster. >> what are the biggest mistakes is extremely do business with all the regulation because of the climate change agenda. >> is very interesting he's basically telling the american people don't believe your lying

eyes in this issue he also focused on sure inflation like preoccupied with the size of snack food. maria: he wants to blame corporation in a pbs news hour mpr mirrors pulse lines among independent voters 53% take a second bite in turn would weaken democracy, only 42% of independent voters say a second trump term would weaken democracy. a contradicting running point of biden's campaign, vice president kamala harris commenting on former president trump about it yesterday. watch this. >> on the other side you have the former president who openly admires dictators and he'll be a dictator on day one. and essentially he will weapon is the department of justice against his political enemies. and said he's proud of taking this constitutional right from the women of america and course

of generations will be impacted by the selection. maria: she thinks the people are stupid and what else can you say. >> they consulted the intelligence of the american people for the last three and half years, her entire argument is projection they always accuse the republicans are guilty of. when she talks about the weaponization of government is exactly what they're doing and most of the human can people say donald trump will be better for democracy less of a threat may be because it's joe biden trying to jell his political opponents including president trump. maria: i made a point of that yesterday spot on. the other thing the democrats and joe biden are against things like voter id and proof of citizenship for voting but their protective democracy in

suppressing free speech. maria: voter id you have all those illegals were to start understanding where they are and they don't have ids. >> and look at what party is affected democracy obviously joe biden is trying to imprison his political opponent and circumventing the supreme court trying to forget student loan debt and not enforcing immigration laws and letting criminals coming into our country with fentanyl and human trafficking, the list is end endless. maria: we are just getting started. stay with us will slip in a short break. some officials say reaching the 2% inflation goal may take longer. our next guest says interest rates will be level for longer, president mark avallone will explain what that means coming up for you to watch "mornings with maria" live on fox business coming up. we'll be right back. ♪

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maria: welcome back let's take a look of interest rates, the tenure is up 2.6 basis points at a level of 4.157%. the fed presidents are saying the same things at this point, the boston fed president signaling that rates need to be higher for longer saying the recent upward surprises to activity and inflation suggest the likely need to keep policy and its current level until we have greater confidence that is moving sustainably to 2%, joining me wealth advisor founder president mark avallone. you been saying for over a year interest rates will be level for longer were hearing one after the other react to the fact that we've had three months of elevated inflation as growth has declined the latest to the fed

president and how you see rates moving the rest of the year? >> and burning. i'm thinking it was a fairly obvious call about a year ago but we went out and said rates are going to remain stubbornly high, all i had to do was look at what's happening with the autoworkers, wage disputes, other wage heights that were being pressed by unionization and other workers, workers don't live in a vacuum their smart and when they see other people get raises all the other non- union in the auto sector get massive raises, healthcare workers get sizable raises in the cheerleader in the white house supporting all the wage hikes which are great for the workers and everybody wants that but from an inflationary standpoint they were all creating an under pending. if you look at structural issues in the economy and the way the healthcare bill is affecting middle-class families and the

premiums and massive price increases those go to the benefit channel. between higher benefit in higher wages companies are good to be very hard-pressed to lower prices on the end result for consumers that's only one argument for higher inflation. the other factor the supply chain has worked out a little bit but what happened with the suez canal that was built over 150 years ago and now ships have to go around africa to deliver that's a massive cost. the supply chain is improving but when you have the houthis determining a massive percentage of the world shipping lanes been opened or closed that is another price increase everywhere we look we see drip drip drip pressure upwards on inflation, regulation is another one i could go on. maria: you make important points and we've also been highlighting

the fact that the red sea and the hostility obviously going to be inflationary and this goes back to policy. remember all the days we were talking about joe biden getting involved in the union fights and making sure he's out there saying we want more money for the unions. if the union pay is up six or 8% of corsica pressure management to raise prices or keep prices at elevated levels because they have the labor expenses go higher. >> there are so many strains feeding into the inflationary spiral that we bit and then the last three to half years. maria: policy related. >> and spending related. >> to the point it's pretty easy to look at publicly traded companies if you look at the s&p 500 near all-time highs but that only tells half of the story, 45% of our economy and private sectors job come from small businesses and when you talk about wages going higher yet

degrees prices were in the case of small business 43% were unable to pay their rent in april, 43% of small business. maria: i read your note i cannot believe that. >> it was 33% a little over a year ago that shows you the packet were on small businesses are struggling and that's half the economy. maria: receiving the beginning of a rate cut cycle in europe. a look at europe as european central banks seen danger for consumer prices including a weaker euro significant risks remain around the trajectory of wage growth and inflation in wages sensitive services wage intensive services, now is not the time to commit to a preset course of action, exactly what you're saying yesterday the bank cut rates for the first time since 2016 the bank of england will announce its rate decision in an hours time your thoughts on the other global central banks of the world are we going

to see those banks cut rates before the u.s.? >> is an interesting game if they cut rates they run the risk of reigniting inflation if there import company then their prices of the goods imported goes out. it's a reverse of the previous decade where everyone was cutting rates to stimulate the economy and one up each other so the global baking system got itself in a pickle in the go to try again to use monetary policy to stimulate economic growth when in reality that may have a counter in fact of higher inflation. were dealing with that now. you're talking about government spending the chips act inflation reduction which is the green energy, the infrastructure act those bills were passed 2 - 3 years ago because of the massive spend from those bills is now an election year and that was done

very prudently or wisely at the time thank you that was to be let in economy government spending and jobs, the problem there all inflationary. maria: unfortunate that the administration does not see it they're not connected the.if they were president biden would not be continuing to say i want to forgive more student loan debt that in itself is inflationary, having said all that they want to buy stocks are you on the sideline how do you allocate capital in the bac backdrop. >> against the backdrop inflation is not the only concern unfortunately, american ingenuity and companies in the one thing that heads off a bit of inflation is a continued improvement offered by tech companies the fnc's that we gain tech is one of the least regulated industries so maybe they can connect the correlation between that but the ingenuity of american companies whether

a.i. and other areas that they continue to reduce cost and we think that's a real positive for the american economy. maria: we will be watching the market. mark avallone, your morning mover is bubble check it out in the premarket the stock is up the dating app soaring on first-quarter earnings with the revenue up ten 2% total pain users across bubbles multiple apps increasing to 4 million benefit from the marketing efforts tapping younger users and women the stock is up 11 and half percent, bubbles download are up 18% from a year ago arm on the move, it is down to the premarket stock is down better than a preset the uk chipmaker full year revenue missing expectation the company financing the timing of the licensing deals can be hard to penn down and its impact in the guidance, the stock is down in a be a highlight this morning. house budget committee held a hearing highlighting the high cost of biden's porter crisis

not just dangerous but expensive committee member georgia congressman buddy carter is here with a recap and down on the house for after the bank enter break. stay with us. ♪

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>> you estimated the net cost would be $150 billion to support the illegals after deducting what little tax that they pay not include $70 billion in cost to our schools does it not? >> yes or. >> $22 billion for medical care? >> yes or. >> that was a house budget hearing on the cost of the border crisis yesterday committee republicans revealing that cartels the dangerous drug cartels made more than $13 billion in human trafficking in 2022 alone that's up from 500 million profits in 2019, congressman chip roy joined the program explaining how much it's costing the state of texas alone watch this. >> texas spent $13 billion, $13 billion to operation lone

star in the efforts to secure the border of the united states because it refuses to do its j job. >> politico is reporting that the biden administration will propose new changes to the asylum system and proposes changes today allowing the u.s. to expedite the removal of migrants were deemed to be a risk to national security or public safety georgia congressman buddy carter the house energy and budget committee. it must be an election year joe biden hasn't done squat about asylum-seekers or the border this entire time in office but were five ways away from an election. >> asked what were footing the bill $150 billion that is staggering, 70 billion in schools, 22 billion in healthcare, since joe biden took office, there was evident half-million encounters at the border that is more than the population of 37 overstates here in america this is totally out of control and i will tell you i represent the coast of georgia but even in the coast of georgia

this is one of the top two issues that people are talking about in my district. maria: and across the country but the point of the president talking about new policy changes that he wants to put in place today to ensure the asylum rules for anybody who's a risk to the country and terrorism risk to the country will actually be expedited, to me it speaks to the fact that three years we had the wide-open border and we had how many hundreds of people apprehended that a bit on the terrorist watch list, what is he doing five months before an election when we've already seen in fiscal 24, the first three months of the year 17 people on the terror watch this, 2023, 80 people, 67 people 2022 and 103 and 2021 if they are terrorists early in the country.

>> absolutely it would be naïve to think that people are coming across-the-board with the intention of hurting us and hurting our country and that's what we have to guard against, now we have a president who is playing politics with asylum in trying to appease the far left and trying to piece his base in bringing the sum, here we are he is endangering our country while he is doing this, that is the responsible. maria: jonathan fahey, i find it incredible that now he's talking about ensuring there is boundaries around people who could be at risk to national security now. >> it's pretty amazing that were talking about and pretending to care and i think the thing that gets lost to national security,

the fentanyl and these things are extraordinarily important but these costs are enormous, what doesn't get factored into these cost a lack of access to healthcare and you cannot just create new doctors with money or if your kids are in overcrowded school you don't get that back ten years later when the money has been spent these costs are really undercounted and eric adams is dealing with in new york, he brought it unwittingly to the attention of the american public but it's so good that congress is dealing with that but i think it needs to be focused on not just the national security but the overall cost that we're going to bear because of biden's policy and we know it's intentional. maria: we all scratch our heads as far as why allow this border to be wide-open why put america in danger and there are many people out there who say it is because they think those people will become democrat voters, we have house speaker mike johnson in texas congressman chip roy announcing the new election integrity bill supposedly targeting illegal migrants who want to vote, here is a speaker

discussing the save act yesterday. >> due to the wide-open border that the biden administration has refused to close and the engineer to open and we now have so many noncitizens in the country that only one out of a hundred voted and they would cost hundreds of thousands of votes, this is a dangerously high number and can obviously change the outcome of our elections. >> weird he spoke with the attorney general of texas, ken paxton was with me a week or so ago and he says he has seen up close and personal what they are doing, watch this. >> here's the deal 47 states that don't stop noncitizens, and texas all you have to do is check a box saying you are a citizen you do not have to prove it we have 44 states open to illegals voting if they come in with a drivers license or given a social security number by the administration they can get a drivers license and register to vote.

maria: what do you say congressman the. >> i could not agree more the save act is something that should've been implemented years ago no non-american should vote in our election, i cannot vote no and our country selection why should we allow illegals to come into this country and break the law and we're going to trust them to check a box into say they're not an american citizen this is ridiculous and that's why we need to pass this and make sure only americans are voting in american elections. maria: it's good to see you, thank you very much, will be watching your work, buddy carter joining us, the house select committee on the coronavirus pandemic tells the world what we already knew my next guest says more information the telescope in 19 was the work of chinese researchers, gate stone institute senior fellow gordon chang is back with us to tell us more, stay with us.

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maria: welcome back the new chairman of the house select committee on china john molnar is warning an alarming lack of urgency from the administration to adopt offensive majors under measures to protect the military bases in the pacific against potential chinese attacks. in a letter to the air force and navy he writes this, american military bases in the end of pacific are under threat with the current strike capabilities, china can attack all u.s. bases in the region and unclassified analysis suggest china has enough weapons to overwhelm our

air and missile defenses protecting the spaces, joining the gate stone institute senior fellow and author of the coming collapse of china and china is going to war, and warden chang back with me. i would get your take, we keep intercepting chinese nationals who are trained to get information from our military bases, whether or not trying to break into military bases yet the surveillance balloon hovering above military bases, a year ago. it is all about stealing information and understanding what the united states is doing, what is administration, isn't aware of this? >> i has to be aware of this but the point it's doing extremely little. almost no sense of urgency in the global office and almost no sense of urgency at the top levels of the pentagon. we have a problem in those civilian and military ranks. if you look at u.s. bases in the region, i think there's going to be very little left standing after the first hour in a war

unless the countermeasures work, right now that is a big unknown but clearly china has more missiles than we have defenses. maria: it is incredible to me that the administration is doing nothing about this despite the fact that we got these signals that they want all this information from our military bases. this is such a national security risk, we send all the administration to beijing with xi jinping have you seen any progress with the military and communicating which is what they claim they want to do. >> is not really a surprise since we have a commander-in-chief who is completely compromised to the chinese card meanest party. he and his family have taken tens of millions of dollars from the ccp related entities. of course there's no incentive on the part of joe biden were anyone in his administration to take more aggressive action with regard to china. there has been a free-for-all including on the border. maria: is that why we have seen no pushback on covid and the

china allowing covid to leak out of the lab and alisha on the world. how select subcommittee brad wenstrup confirming what we already knew, he said the classified state department records records credibly suggest that covid originated from the lab leak in wuhan and the chinese communist party tried to cover it up this is something that i reported on on this program for years from day one. chairman winship join me and said exactly this package would be 23. >> you have seen what we revealed through the subcommittee on the pandemic with the internal documents from the people that are saying this came from major nothing to see in china. internally they are saying is very likely could've come from the lay and dr. fauci said there

until they know they're doing this research in wuhan. maria: the administration has not held china accountable at all. earlier this week brad wenstrup wrote a letter to anthony blinken requesting he declassified the record to share the truth about the origins of covid. why hasn't this been done already, it's been four years? >> it is because you have for instance the world health organization which is dominated by china and anthony fauci have led the charge among the scientific community to propagate the ludicrous notion that this was caused by the province who transferred the pathogen to intermediary mammal that when a thousand miles to wuhan and then made it to humans. no documentation for the transmission links. by the way the of joe biden at the end of this month is determined to get power more power to the w.h.o., dictatorial power in pandemics above for

pandemics because biden wants to cite the pandemic treaty which basically eliminates our sovereignty in our ability to defeat diseases in our own country because those decisions will be made in geneva by doctor ted derose who china owns. maria: that's incredible. xi jinping is in budapest today. he has meetings with hungarian prime minister and other officials as he wraps up the three nation european trip. presienter president xi is exped to sign any sudden agreement to build a shared future with serbia. what is the impact of this trip? >> this is basically going to undermine that you whirls on subsidies. his first stop was france were the major discussion with chinese subsidies to ev makers, xi jinping is able to evade that by building a battery player in the car plant which are now

under construction in hungary, that is inside europe and more important inside of the european union and that makes it very difficult for brussels to deal effectively with china's predatory trade practices because hungary is essentially china's ally and is doing china's bidding. maria: recently the administration said it's going to put sanctions on certain companies and pushback on the threat of those companies taking intellectual property, are you expecting anything to really materialize here? >> the biden administration will do the minimum necessary and they for instance will strengthen their restrictions on chips and chipmaking equipment and they will stop the export of a.i. software to china which is a good thing but it's too late, these are things abiding the administration should've been doing on day one now they have

an election looming so they decided they needed to do something about china but they don't have the heart and it which is a real indication as monica just talked about the motivation of the biden administration not to do things on china or to do things at the very last moment because they know they have an election ruling in their future. maria: they also claim that they try to convince china to stop the support of russia and its war on ukraine and virtually all the chinese companies including russia including military support are present in the u.s. index funds. u.s. investors once again unwittingly or wittingly funding the expansion of communist china moving hundreds of billions of dollars a year into the coffers of the ccp thanks to wall street executives and to this administration not making any changes to the companies that trade on our exchanges. >> as roger robinson has had on your program all you have a 401k

at the federal government and the thrift savings program. they can invest in chinese companies that are sanctioned by the commerce department. this is just insane it is hideous and yet we allow this to go on. we know from day one that china has been supporting regression more and ukraine and included with lisle until legal assistance. president biden said lethal assistance as a redline and he's been saying that for three years and yet they've done almost nothing. it's really wrong and the only thing that they did, two weeks ago when they sanctioned chinese companies and that was a meaningless sanction because what they really need to do is go after the chinese banks and they need to go after the regime itself, that is the source of this evil. maria: any thoughts on tiktok suing the u.s. government now for this proposed ban? >> tiktok said it would raise a first amendment challenge in the courts when the legislation was

enacted, this is not a first amendment issue, this legislation is not going after the content of video on the site it's going after the conduct on tiktok. for instance in illegally stealing the data of 170 million americans and by the way the ceo of tiktok in late january said this was not happening which means he was committing perjury because we know from sources such as forbes and buzz feed that tiktok has been stealing all the data that is collected in the u.s. and sent to beijing. think the justice department needs to start the prosecution of the tiktok ceo. maria: will see about that as the biden campaign is still on tiktok, thank you. we'll be watching all of that. maria: gordon chang joining us. whether across the country we will bring you details right

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maria: welcome back. three people confirmed dead as severe weather rips through the midwest and carolinas. cheryl casone with the details. >> terrible storms turning tragic and parts of the country as another tornado turned ugly last night killing three people in tennessee and north carolina putting several others. the national weather service showing dozens of warnings last night as more than 22 million people were under a tornado watch in portions of eight different states the tornadoes and rain along with the massive size hail like you see in northern tennessee pummeling parts of the southeast is committed is from alabama to the carolina suffering firsthand from mother nature's wrath. it may not be over yet. more rounds of severe storms are set to strike today and more tornadoes could be possible.

>> of the presidential candidate rfk junior responded to critics about a story involving a brain condition. back in 2010 he said he was experiencing memory loss and mental fogginess he went on later to see a doctor told him a parasitic warm had entered his brain, ate a portion of it then died, i offered to eat five more brain worms and still be president trump and president biden in the debate, i feel confident the result even with handicap. he's making fun of this the resurface story in the telling of it came out in the deposition and it made headlines as is campaigning that is younger and healthier and more agile than his two opponents. the venezuela migrant accused of killing georgia nursing student laken riley is charged with her murder hosea ibarra indicted on ten counts his week including malice murder and kidnapping with bodily injury. the 22-year-old attacked while a

run on the campus. court documents say she had blood force trauma to the head in a fixation, also facing charges for spying on a campus staff member the same day she was killed. his court date has not been set. finally this, california governor gavin newsom is getting roasted after appearing in the video where he brags about how fabulous the golden state is. watch. >> i'm on the iconic golden gate bridge over $150 billion of tourism spent unprecedented in the states history. if you have assumed the magnificent beauty of our great state, it is time to visit california. >> in the video he appears to be in the air above the golden gate bridge somehow. the san francisco mayor according to one commenter said he must be spider-man. other critics but jumping on the bandwagon, you're calling millions of illegals invading california tourist. another saying good way to

celebrate inflation but do you bed. gas lighting, is he missing everything else happening there. it's a great thing california come and visit. >> good luck not tripping over the illegals, the homeless, the policies of california. >> were 16 years in $24 billion into gavin newsom's decade-long plan to eradicate homelessness and look at where we are, progress made. i have a buddy i was talking to on a flight a few weeks ago who had just come back from san francisco, he went out there for a tech conference in when he was driving to the tech conference he asked what are these people doing to the convention let out and the driver said those are homeless people. it's not a good situation. >> the left took a beautiful state and absolutely destroyed it and now for the last couple

of years california has given healthcare to illegals and al-qaeda benefits to illegals, california in a few short years coming up in the pandemic they got massive amounts of money from the federal government to deal with it than a budget surplus now there are tens of billions of dollars in debt and they get to come to washington to the american taxpayer for a bit while. maria: just as any problem with joe biden come the election we know gavin newsom is probably the next one in line that democrats will want to see him on the ticket and he's trying to put a good face on his policy. >> i think it's ironic and that's why i mention he was mayor of san francisco, i was there seven years for an anchor at san francisco and i don't recognize the city getting more when i go back. i went back last year and i was shocked and dismayed. everyone i know like new york city has fled they said we can't table the policies anymore. if he is going to run he's going to have to run suspended above

the golden gate bridge for all his campaign acts. maria: spider-man or somebody. thank you. jonathan a similar situation in california that were seen at the southern border because the wide-open border there. >> they have a wall. >> california loses population every year of citizens but they make up from an illegal alien. it's a beautiful state but everything he could take credit for has nothing to do with him it is stuff that was there before him but the giving free healthcare and the educational system has declined massively in the next 20 or 30 years income disparity which they always talk about is massive in california he is nothing to run on other than things that have nothing to do with him. >> a big china component lots of representatives there and later they learned they were in bed with china dianne feinstein or her driver or eric swalwell. >> a gavin newsom was there a couple of months ago.

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