>> the only reason you know about this is from a deposition? >> right, i found this through my reporting. >> yet here we are, one of three presidential candidates. a man with a huge amount of power in the coming race to make it or break it one way or another. >> and a really important point, he is now on several ballots in the country, looking to gain access to pretty much every state and he is marching toward that, so he will be a deciding factor, one way or the other in the election. it is a very consequential individual, in my view, in the upcoming presidential race. >> not just in your view. widely held. incredible reporting as usual. now you are on the brain worm beat. thank you for making the time. that is our show tonight. now it is time for the last word. good evening, jonathan.

>> good evening, alex. i was busy preparing, so i did not get to hear suzanne craig and her incredible reporting and the incredible story she broke today. >> it gets into your mind like a brain worm, reporting. sorry, i had to. >> you had to go there. alex, have a good rest of the evening. >> have a good show. well, they want to keep me off the campaign trail. it is one of the many lies donald trump tells about his hush money trial. it is a lie, because there is always one day a week donald trump is free to campaign. that day is today, wednesday, but donald trump doesn't have any public campaign event scheduled for his day off from court. instead he is spending the day at mar-a-lago. according to axios, quote, trump flew home to palm beach, florida, where he is expected to join supporters who brought -- who bought at least 27 trump

nfts at $99 each. according to a copy of the dinner invitation reviewed by axios, the company selling trump nfts is not connected to his campaign. last year, trump reported making between $100,000 to $1 million in 2022 from nfts, according to financial disclosures. and donald trump is hosting the dinner just one day after nikki haley, who ended her presidential campaign two months ago, managed to win nearly 22% of indiana republican votes. nikki haley has support from one in five republican primary voters. donald trump did not campaign for those votes today, but with the stakes so high in this election, the biden harris campaign is continuing its full- court press. president biden was in wisconsin to announce a $3.3 billion investment from

microsoft to build a new, artificial intelligence data center at the site of donald trump's failed, $10 billion fox con project. >> my predecessor came with the promise of, quote, reclaiming our country's proud manufacturing legacy. we had infrastructure week every week for four years. the administration promised a $10 million investment by foxconn to build a new manufacturing complex. create 13,000 new jobs. in fact he came here with your senator, ron johnson, literally holding a golden shovel, promising to build the eighth wonder of the world. are you kidding me? look what happened. they dug a hole. those golden shovels. and then they fell into it. look, they did not -- they did

shovel some dirt. 100 homes were bulldozed. hundreds of millions of dollars of state and local tax dollars for a project that never happened. foxconn turned out to be just that, a con. go figure. >> while president biden was celebrating major legislative achievements and highlighting the failures of donald trump, vice president kamala harris is pushing forward on her reproductive freedom to her with an assist from her husband, doug emhoff. the second gentleman was in atlanta yesterday, pushing for more men to get involved in the fight for reproductive rights. >> why should other men, i hope, care as much as i do? again, this is not just an issue for women. this is an issue for families. we talk about this in context of, my son just got married. is think about -- he is thinking about starting a family. will this impact where they

live and how they think about starting a family? we have one dad who has a daughter in one of these states in college, thinking do i leave? do i leave the state because of a restrictive ban? so that is what is happening. make no mistake. donald trump caused to this. >> today vice president harris was in pennsylvania, laying the blame squarely on donald trump for the state of abortion access in this country. >> if you want to know who's to blame for where we are right now, a finger can be directly pointed at the former president. the former president made it very clear and then did what he intended to. he would pick three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of row and they did exactly as he intended and then we see the laws being passed. most recently we've heard him say and talk about the fact

that he is proud. proud, i ask? the doctors and nurses can be jailed? proud that our daughters have fewer rights than ourselves and our mothers? proud that people are suffering? >> vice president harris was joined by emmy award-winning actress and singer sheryl lee ralph, who talked about her own personal experience. >> when my son was born it almost didn't happen. i have lost my amniotic fluid and most of us know in here, that is the fluid that surrounds the baby in the womb and i was about ready to have what they called a dry birth, which is complicated. i was in a moment where i was so close to birth and death, at the same time. and this doctor says to me, you

have one chance right now for a viable delivery. i am listening to this as i am trying to deliver my child. if that doctor were to deliver and excavate the child from my womb, they would have gone to prison. these are the kinds of things we have got to think about. that happened to me. but that was 30 years ago. i had more rights 30 years ago. and why are we having to talk to so many women to let them know how important they are in this reelection on this subject and how important it is to vote for your own best interests?

>> i often paraphrase -- i think such a lovely, important saying from coretta scott king. she famously said the fight for civil rights, and you can insert the fight for equality and freedom, must be fought and won with each generation. when she said that i think she had two points in mind. one is that it is the nature of these fights, that whatever we gain will not be permanent. it is the nature of it. therefore, second point, we must be vigilant and not be overwhelmed when these moments happen, because the nature of it, the very nature of it is we must be vigilant to hold onto these rights. >> joining us now, michael tyler, communications director

for the biden harris reelection campaign. great to see you again. thank you for coming to the last word. we are seeing a split screen after donald trump spent yesterday in a criminal courtroom listening to testimony from stormy daniels. how is the biden harris campaign seizing on this moment? >> certainly a split screen. as it relates to donald trump no matter where he is, whether it is a manhattan courtroom or mar-a-lago or the few times he steps out onto the stump. he is talking about the same things. he is running a campaign based on revenge, retribution, grievance and service of himself. talking about the role he played overturning roe v wade. the bands that are playing out across the country. working out brilliantly. he is talking about a bloodbath if he does not win. he is talking about if he is able to regain power. that is the campaign donald trump is running. i think today you see out of

joe biden somebody who is talking about the promises he has made and the promises he has kept, fighting on behalf of working people across this country. in wisconsin, $3.3 billion at the same place donald trump came to when he was president with a golden shovel in his hand, promising the eighth wonder of the world and 18,000 jobs. the people of wisconsin saw how that played out. people in warren, michigan also saw that played out. donald trump said you will not lose any jobs here. the result was six plants closing under his watch. in joe biden's america we are bringing american manufacturing back to american shores. that is the economic record we will campaign on and we will pair that with the fundamental rights and freedoms joe biden is running to protect and advance and contract that against donald trump who is

running a campaign about himself and personal grievances. >> let's keep talking about the biden harris campaign and what they are actually doing. the president was talking about the new plant going on the site of the old plant that donald trump promised and failed to follow through on. how are you campaigning differently in wisconsin to meet voters where they are not just in wisconsin, but in key states? >> it is a good question. i think today is a good example of that. we launched a new push we are doing across the country. number one we are continuing our aggressive paid advertising campaign. $14 million in the month of may, but we are leering that with the work on the ground. the president after he gave a speech announcing the microsoft project went to a community center in racine. we are doing work in the black community, making sure we are not only doing doorknocking and phone calls, but working with

small businesses and making sure they can serve as staging locations for our efforts on the ground. we are building up our physical infrastructure. we have over 150 field offices across the battleground states. by the end of this month we will have 200 field offices. it is taking the full efforts of everything we do on the airwaves, on the ground, across the digital platforms. i think all of that stands in contrast to the lack of infrastructure out of the trump campaign. they are only running spots right now. the physical infrastructure is nonexistent in wisconsin. they are shuttering outreach centers for the rnc. they may do lipservice for minority outreach, but the proof is in the pudding so far as what they care about. i think it stands in stark contrast for the campaign we are running. who we are speaking to, the work we are doing to make sure the entirety of the biden harris coalition understands the stakes of this election and turns out in november. >> let's keep talking about black voters because a lot has been made of the movement of

some black letters to the right. there are voters upset about high prices on food or interest rates. does the president have a problem with that key voting block? what will it take to get support back up to 2020 levels? >> i think we need to do what we are doing, running a campaign. we will communicate exactly what the president's record has been. no president in modern history has done more for black america than joe biden. we have record low black unemployment under this administration. you have black wealth up 60% since the pandemic. historic investments in the tune of $7 billion. the fastest rate of black small business growth. the list goes on and on. so we will talk about what president biden's record has been and also we will talk about her opponent, donald trump. he has not been in the limelight as of late, but we remember his record when he was in power. the employment rate and uninsured rate. we will talk about the records.

we will talk about the vision for the future. we will talk about her opponent and the damage he caused to america. we are confident if we continue to communicate that message using all of the tools we have at our disposal as a campaign, that we will be successful with black voters and all of the voters will decide the pathway to 270 electoral votes. >> michael, a lot of people are getting information online and a lot of it is bad. how are you trying to reach those potential voters? >> we have to use, as i said, all of the tools at our disposal. the media campaign is on the tv and airwaves, but equally on digital platforms using all of the tools we have across social platforms, search and others. using digital influencers. making sure we are communicating with credible messengers across platforms and communities.

we understand you can't just get on tv and make your pitch. you have to make sure you are using all of the tools at your disposal and again, leering at with the brick and mortar. it's why the infrastructure we have at this early stage -- you cannot show up to a city or community in september and october and ask for somebody's vote. it is a sustained, long-term relationship, which is why our efforts started in august of last year and why we are applying lessons to cities like milwaukee and phoenix, applying those to all eight battleground states. that is what you are seeing in the field offices we have. the small business outreach we are doing right now and we will scale up those efforts for the summer months, which will be crucial to building the grassroots army that will take on donald trump in the fall. >> all right, michael, let's talk about some voters who you're asking for their votes. those are the nikki haley voters. she has not campaigned in two months. she got 22% of the vote in

indiana. how are you appealing to those voters? do you think you can peel some of those off? >> a couple of things. i think number one speaks to the relative weakness of donald trump as he enters the general election. this is a man who has still not demonstrated an ability to expand his appeal beyond the hard-core maga base. because when he does campaign he is running on a record even more extreme than the last time he had power. national abortion bands. retribution. tearing down the fabric of our democracy and returning to the failed economic record of tax handouts to the superrich and corporations, all things that are unpopular with the american people. also telling nikki haley's voters that he does not want or need them. what this campaign is saying is two people who voted for nikki haley or the former lieutenant governor in georgia, people who understand the threat donald trump poses to our democracy, that there is a home for you in joe biden's campaign.

part of the reason we won in 2022 and will win in 2024 is because we have a big tent of diverse americans who understand the stakes of this election. so we are confident if we do the outreach that people will understand joe biden is fighting for them, fighting for their values and fighting to bring the country together to get things done, in contrast to donald trump simply fighting for himself. >> michael, in light of president biden's decision to halt the shipment of american weapons israel might use for an assault on rafah, i'm worried how concerned are you about the impact of the war on the biden harris campaigns appeal to voters who are really concerned about their leadership in this ongoing crisis? >> i think the president approached this from the very beginning not as a politician, but as commander in chief. i think you're seeing that play out today and that is why the

american people elected him in the first place, because he had the judgment to manage complex, global situations like the one playing out in the middle east. so we will make sure that the american people know and understand that and i think the american people also understand that that is diametrically opposed to how someone like donald trump would approach this. again we know he does not have the temperament, does not have the judgment to be commander-in- chief and his only north star if he is able to regain power will be his own self-interest. not what is in the best interest of our allies, not in the best interest of security. the american people will understand that when they go to the ballot box. >> michael tyler, communications director for the biden harris campaign. think you very much for coming to the last word. when we come back, new developments in defendant donald trump's cases in georgia and florida. next, what these delays mean in holding defendant trump accountable.

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donald trump complains almost every day that he sits in a manhattan courtroom, facing criminal charges, that he should be out on the campaign trail. so you would think that today when he is not in court that he actually would be out campaigning, but he is not. he is at his florida club, hosting a dinner for people that bought his nft cards.

demonstrating once again that donald trump cares more about the grifter than he does about the voters. but while in the middle of his first criminal trial in new york donald trump got a potential reprieve from his criminal trial in georgia for his efforts to steal the 2020 election in that state. an appeals court in georgia agreed to hear donald trump's challenge to the judges ruling not to disqualify district attorney fani willis for prosecuting the case. as the journal-constitution notes, it is unclear how long the busy appeals court will take to decide the issue, but it could stretch into 2025. the delay in the georgia trial comes one day after donald trump's favorite judge, aileen cannon, who he appointed, gave him an indefinite delay in the case accusing him of illegally possessing classified documents in violation of the espionage act. in an order yesterday, judge

cannon said there were too many outstanding pretrial issues to move forward with the trial originally scheduled for may 20, adding, quote, finalization of a trial date at this juncture before resolution of the myriad and interconnected pretrial issues remaining and forthcoming would be imprudent and inconsistent with the court duty to fully and fairly consider the various pending pretrial motions before the court, critical issues and additional pretrial and trial preparations. necessary to present this case to a jury. the delays in both the georgia and florida cases raise the possibility that the hush money criminal trial might be the only one of trumps for criminal trials to be decided by a jury before the november election. it is important to remember that these delays only matter if donald trump wins in november. if donald trump is defeated at

the ballot box, then each and every one of these cases delayed now or not will go to trial. joining us now, glenn kirschner, former product -- former federal prosecutor. and bradley moss, a national security attorney who represents people in the intelligence community. thank you for being here. the judge left the door open for this possibility, but are you surprised the georgia appeals court agreed to hear this given his ruling? >> i really am not, jonathan. this is a unique and perhaps unprecedented case and a somewhat unconventional issue that got litigated. the potential disqualification of fani willis for having a relationship with one of her teammates. it really does not seem to the detriment of the defendants, but it does not surprise me that the georgia court of appeals is interested enough to accept this case for review. the good news, and we are

always looking for the silver lining lurking behind the dark, orange cloud. i think the good news is judge mcafee made clear when he granted the motion to have this issue appealed, he said, listen, this is not going to slow me down. i'm going to continue to litigate motions, resolve issues and move in the direction of a trial and at least thus far with today's order from the georgia court of appeals, they said nothing about staying the trial court proceedings, so at least they can continue to make progress in the direction of a trial, while this appeal is pending. >> do you think they will grant a stay? >> i think donald trump's team will request a stay. i'm hopeful they won't grant a stay, because really what is at issue is should fani willis be a charge and supervising this prosecution or should it be someone else?

i will be interested to hear bradley's take on that, but i don't think they need to grant a stay. this is unlike the prosecution in d.c. where the supreme court is taking up the absolute immunity claim. if that is a winning claim, then there should not be a trial, but it should not be a winning claim. >> your name has been invoked, so i would love to get you to answer glenn before i ask you about florida. >> am also inclined to think they won't grant a stay, for no other reason than this will get resolved. this will get resolved before the case is ready for trial anyway, because even if judge mcafee starts ruling on these pretrial motions and has already gone through several of them, the immunity issue is also there. we have to see what the supreme court will rule on that. if they are going to make it a detailed, evidentiary process going forward, which is what many of us suspected. that could drag things out at

the district court level anyway. while the appellate court deals with whether or not fani willis and her team can be there at trial, so i don't see any reason for a stay at this point. >> okay, you heard me basically run out of breath reading judge cannon's rationale for this indefinite stay on everything, especially this. the court's duty to fully and fairly consider the various pending pretrial motions before the court. isn't she part of the problem? your thoughts on florida? >> there are so many pending pretrial motions because she is moving at a snails pace. some of these things that she only recently issued orders on. some of the pretrial motions that she denied, of course, she could have easily ruled on 2 to 3 months ago. she took forever to get to the initial steps in the cipa

process. if you remove the idea that this is donald trump from it and try to view it at a 30,000 foot level, you can see it as a young and inexperienced judge being cautious and apprehensive in terms of how she is approaching this. given the political implications, there is an obvious sort of stench surrounding this. is she dragging it out because of underlying bias or dragging it out because that is how much she is not ready for this case? >> bradley, what does special counsel jack smith do now? could he try to seeker removal? >> sadly, no. she has not done anything, in my view, that would justify it. even if you wanted to go to the 11th circuit and try to do something, everything she has done so far is almost entirely within her discretion as the trial judge to set her calendar, to issue rulings.

she has not gone rogue, so to speak, on substantive issues. she has ruled against donald trump and reversed one of her own rulings. ruled in favor of the government. what works for donald trump is the delay. how slowly she has moved through the process. this case could have easily made it to trial this month and it has not because of the judges pace. >> we are still waiting on the supreme court to decide trumps immunity claim. is there any hope the d.c. election interference case can go to trial before the election? >> i think prospects are slim to none and fading fast. i hate to say that. it is still possible that if the supreme court rules that donald trump is not king, no president is king, he is subject to prosecution for the crimes he commits against the american people while in office. if they rule before the end of

the term, before the end of june. they return the case and it is conceivable that she could put it back on the trial calendar for perhaps september 1 and get it tried and resolved prior to the november election. i fear they may return for more evidentiary hearings, which would be unnecessary and problematic on the timing front, but all hope is not lost. it is just that it looks less likely. >> glenn kirschner and bradley maas, think you both for coming to the last word. coming up, donald trump's immigration plan is demonizing immigrants and telling republicans to kill the bipartisan border bill. colin allred has a better plan. that is next.

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we have an update to a story we followed on the last word. the sixth and final victim was recovered from the site of the francis scott key bridge collapse in baltimore, maryland. the new york times reports the victim, 37, was a member of the work crew filling potholes on the bridge when it was struck on march 26. mister lopez was from guatemala and had come to baltimore for a better life. he was married with two young children, a boy and a girl. all of the men who died were emigrants from el salvador, guatemala, honduras and mexico.

the tragedy is a reminder of the enormous contribution that immigrants make to this country and our economy. facing risks and injuries on jobs that many people overlook. advocates are now rallying for immigrants and undocumented worker protections as former president trump and maga republicans stoke anti- immigrant fears across the country. in last month's time magazine interview, trump stated he would use the national guard to deport migrants if needed and has said he plans to restore a muslim ban on day one should he be reelected. republicans in congress are to blame as well for the lack of immigration reform after killing a bipartisan border bill at trump's urging. trump wants to demonize immigrants for his own political purposes, which is why he tanked the bipartisan border bill, but the reality is that immigration is a key part of the american economy and the

american experience and we need solutions, not poison division. our next guest, texas senate candidate congressman colin allred of texas, is calling on president biden to extend work permits to undocumented spouses and children of citizens. in an op-ed a texas businessman and congressman allred right, allowing someone who has worked and paid taxes here for decades, someone who is raising a family here, to legally work, earn a living and help our economy is a boon for their family and for employers. across the country at least 5.5 million u.s. citizens under the age of 18 and 5.8 million adult u.s. citizens live with and undocumented spouse, parent, or other loved one. these are already american families. they just need the federal government to let them live like families. it is good for our economy and reflects who we are as americans

and as texans. joining us now, democratic congressman colin allred of texas. he is the elected democratic nominee running for the united states senate seat currently occupied by ted cruz. congressman allred, great to see you. thank you for being here. how would impact -- how would expanding work permits impactor state of texas? >> think you for having me on. we are a nation of immigrants and also a nation of laws. one simple way to do it is to expand work permits, which is a simple, bipartisan solution. it would be a win-win for texas, because it would help bring families together and bring workers into our economy. i'm always looking for creative ways to work across the aisle where we can to address our immigration system. i would love to see us address this comprehensively. i would love to address what is happening at the border with the legislation you are

discussing. unfortunately we have not had the leadership in place to do that. when i am in the senate we will have a leader in place who understands we have to make some of these changes, but let's do it consistent with their values. let's make sure that as americans, as texans, that we have a secure border and immigration system that works for our economy, but let's do it consistent with who we are. >> as i mentioned in the intro and is lots of folks know if they watch the show, donald trump is the reason the bipartisan border deal fell through. republicans are admitting it was their own parties fault. do you see another chance to get something done on this issue? >> i really hope so, because we need to. listen, that deal was addressing motivations that we have at the southern border and the asylum process. the asylum process is broken. we are seeing folks come in and about 90% of folks trying to seek asylum will be rejected. it will take five, six, seven

years for that rejection to occur, so this was an attempt to speed up and deal with the backlog to provide billions of dollars of resources. more immigration judges and personnel to help address what we are seeing at the southern border and when i talk to border control agents it was something they supported and the union came out in support of, because they knew it helped them do their job. folks like ted cruz don't want to solve a problem. they want to have something to run on in november and that is what we cannot have more of in this country. >> is senator cruz paying penalty with voters for this? >> i talk to folks all the time who ask me, why can't you all get something done? i think it is on all of us to explain, listen, there are folks trying to get things done. we know what a comprehensive immigration reform would look like. in my op-ed i am working with a republican businessman in texas to try to find a way forward. there are folks trying to get

things done, but also folks like ted cruz who are standing in the way. in our democracy, elections is how we solve that. if somebody won't help you solve a crisis which we've had at the southern border, then elect someone who will. that is what we have to talk about and make sure texans and americans understand that our immigration system is broken, but it is broken because of folks will not provide leadership to address it. >> congressman, let me get you on one more issue. you've been an advocate of rights. tonight a voter who spoke out after being denied abortion care in texas introduced to the vice president at an event in pennsylvania. are these post-roe horror stories changing minds in texas? >> absolutely. i am proud to call her a friend. i think telling stories like this are so incredibly painful. my wife and i have had two boys

in the last five years. i hope everyone out there who was apparent knows what they would feel like if they had to tell the story of a pregnancy where they were not able to have the child they were hoping for. talk about the pain and suffering caused by the policies in place in texas. so these are real texas stories and they are tragic stories. we have to make sure that there are no more of them and we can do that by codifying roe v. wade. that is what this election in many ways will be about. it is about freedom and restoring freedom to texas women. women like amanda. a friend of mine who was my state of the union guest. so many stories we have not heard that are coming out every single day. >> i will have to leave it there. texas congressman colin allred, thank you very much for coming back to the last word. coming up, small acts of courage matter. sometimes they change the world. my friend and colleague explores that in his new wire,

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and then left kenya once again for toronto, nine years later, my parents existed halfway between that of immigrants and that of refugees. technically speaking, they were immigrants. they were never forced out of anywhere. they always left willingly, and were always free to return. on both occasions my parents voluntary departures were made with a deep sense of foreboding. like the jews looked around germany in 1933 and thought this isn't going to end well, my parents packed their bags with the belief that it was better to leave as an immigrant while they still could then risk being for forced out as a refugee later. >> dedicated the book quote to the remarkable women who have shaped my journey in life. that includes his grandmothers,

his mother, his sister, his daughter, and his wife. as you read this remarkable book, the indelible impact the women have had on the author and his family shines through. joining us now is the author himself. his new memoir, small acts of courage, a legacy of endurance and the fight for democracy including the audiobook read by ali is ready now. now, i come all the way to new york to talk to you and you go to washington. >> i know, although the dirty secret is that you and i actually did cross paths were once in l.a. this weekend. it was great to talk to you. this is the second time i get to talk to about this book, and i'm very excited. >> and that interview will air this weekend. but let's start with the dedication at the beginning of your book. and why it was so important for you to begin your book with those words. >> for two reasons. one is because it is true. the women in my family have been remarkably influential. and second part is as i researched this book, and i went to the archives to look at these things, it dawned on me that women get written out of

history a lot, particularly in a society like south africa under apartheid where records are kept about everything. everybody with somebody else's wife or sister or daughter. so i wanted to really draw attention to the fact that in the struggle to overcome apartheid and fight against the injustices, the women in my family did a remarkable job of keeping their families together, raising them, in many cases sustaining them while also facing remarkable injustices. and it occurred to me, jonathan, that that is probably the case for most people, certainly a lot of people in the world. i wanted to give special recognition to the women who have created who i am today and propel me forward. >> and we are going to play another passage from your audiobook. listen. >> my parents had a dedication to this cause of building a civil society. they had a passion for it, and both of them have seemingly endless reserves of patients combined with a knack for paying tremendous attention to detail. there are certain kinds of people: you put them on a

committee, and within six months there running the thing. that was both of my parents. it's a sensibility that they have. things have to get done, and things have to get done right. they were not in it for social reasons, and they were not in it for recognition. they were in it because they believed in it, and because they thrived in the minutia of it. they were equipped for the grind of it, so whether it was politics or social issues, they were involved all the time, nonstop. and as soon as my sister was old enough, she would enter that world, as well. >> talk more about your family and this desire to serve. >> i grew up in south africa. my grandfather was the youngest student at mahatma gandhi's ashram in south africa. and they grew up with the sense of social justice and wanting to fight apartheid, but they couldn't. my sister and my parents were

both born in a place with a current vote because of the color of their skin, and they were desperate to be involved in politics and civil society as full participants, and once they got to canada, where i grew up, they threw themselves into civil society and ultimately politics. what it led to was my father running for office in 1981, in a way that nobody else had before him as a south asian, as a muslim. and he lost the election. it was sort of a notable moment for me because i didn't realize people running elections deliberately knowing they are going to lose, just to be part of the dialogue. ultimately my father ran and won and broke some glass ceilings. but it was a sense of fighting to make sure that everybody has equality in society, and if everybody doesn't enjoy it, the none of us do. and that is an e those i wasn't even sure i was absorbing all these years, and it turns out that it has filtered down to me from my great-grandparents to my grandparents to my father, my mother, my sister, and over to me. injustice is around us and it is our job to fight.

>> that gets to the subtitle of your book, the fight for democracy. your book is as much about the journey of your family and the journey they have taken across generations as it is. the fight for democracy, i was going to ask you to explain that for us, but you kind of just did. >> it is this inclusive democracy, right? my parents grew up in apartheid south africa, i don't know whether it was five or 6% of the population had the right to vote. democracy was fantastic for them. they had a real democracy, if you are white in apartheid south africa. everyone else didn't. that is where we have to look at things now. while there are those among us who do not enjoy the same rights we have, the same access to voting, the same access to marrying whom you want, the same access to making reproductive decisions, the none of us have it. and i think the vice president made that point in atlanta. men have got to look at reproductive rights and say this is our problem, too. that is the e those in which i

grew up, that everybody needs to enjoy the same rights. it cannot be democracy for most of us or some of us, it has to be democracy for all of us. that is a battle i grew up understanding was crucial, and weirdly, i didn't expect this, 54 years after my parents arrived in north america, that we would still actually be fighting and be in that arena as we are today. >> again, the new book, which should make a wonderful mother's day gift, by the way, is small acts of courage, a legacy of an utterance and the fight for democracy. and as i mentioned, ali will join me again on the saturday show at 6:00 p.m. eastern to continue this discussion. ali velshi, congratulations again, thank you. >> thank you, my friend. >> we will be right back.

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