found this information in a deposition through my reporting. >> and yet here we are one of three presidential candidates, a man with a huge amount of power in the coming race to make it or break it. >> and he's made it on several ballots in the country and gained access to pretty much every state, and he's marching towards that. so he will have -- he'll be a deciding factor one way or another in the election. it's a very consequential -- he's a very consequential individual in my view in this upcoming presidential race. >> not just in your view. i think wildly held. incredible reporting, suzanne craig, as usual. thank you for making the time. that is show for tonight. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. during the previous administration my predecessor made promises which he broke more than kept and left a lot of

people behind including racine. on my watch we make promises and we keep promises and we leave no one behind. >> that was president joe biden in the battleground state of wisconsin yesterday announcing a major economic investment while highlighting his predecessor's failed deal in that exact same town. we'll have more of his comments straight ahead. meanwhile, the president is also drawing a hard line on military support for israel's impending invasion of rafah. that decision is now drawing some sharp criticism from lawmakers on capitol hill. and also ahead we'll get a preview of what to expect today in donald trump's hush money trial with stormy daniels set to take the witness stand yet again.

good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this thursday, may 9th. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we'll begin with president biden's visit yesterday to wisconsin, a key swing state in november's election. the president was there to announce a $3.3 billion investment by microsoft to build an artificial intelligence data center in the town of racine. it'll be on the exact same site as a foxconn facility who donald trump claimed during his administration would be the eighth wonder of the world. but the facility never materialized and the taiwanese company drastically scaled back plans for the factory reducing the number of new jobs from 13,000 to the roughly 1,000 spots that are now filled. that's according to the milwaukee journal sentinel. president biden drew that contrast and highlighted all of that in this speech yesterday.

>> in fact six years ago when my predecessor came here with the promise of, quote, re-claiming our country's proud manufacturing legacy, we had infrastructure day every week for four years and didn't build a damn thing. his administration promised a $10 billion investment by foxconn to build new manufacturing complex and create 13,000 new jobs. national he came here with your senator, ron johnson, literally holding a goldsen shovel promising to build the eighth wonder of the world. are you kidding me? look what happened. they dug a hole with those golden shovels and then they fell into it. look, they didn't shovel other dirt. they did shovel some dirt.

100 homes were bulldozed. they raised hundreds and millions of dollars of your state and local tax dollars in promise of a project that would never happen. foxconn turned out to be just that, a con. go figure. >> the president clearly reveling in that contrast. meanwhile, there are four new polls that show biden and donald trump neck and neck in the battleground states of wisconsin as well as pennsylvania. in the badgeritate the latest quinnipiac survey finds biden leading by a single point. meanwhile third party candidates combine to receive 17% of the vote. that's pretty substantial in that poll. separate polling from marquette university conducted last month also shows the wisconsin race within a single point among likely voters but this time it's trump ahead 42-41. in pennsylvania now an aarp poll shows trump leading by 5 points

among likely voters 46-41%. another poll from the keystone state has trump and biden tied at 35% each with robert f. kennedy jr. netting 18% of the vote. all four of these fall from the margin of error and connected before the revelation of the worm that died. meanwhile, president biden says he believes donald trump will not accept the results of the 2024 election. he made those comments on cnn last night while adding that his rival is a fundamental threat to democracy. biden was responding to trump's claim that you have to fight for the right of the country if the election results are not, quote, honest. >> how seriously do you take that threat? >> seariatesly just like i do january 6th. the guy is not a democrat with a small "d." i mean he is -- the idea that

you can't only love your country when you win, number one. how many court cases they had, supreme court cases. they all said it was determined a legitimate election. this is trump. i mean it's -- and he may not accept the outcome of the election? i promise you he won't. >> promise that he won't. >> he won't. which is dangerous. >> in a split screen that defines the 2024 election at the moment while president biden returns from the battleground state of wic, now in just hours stormy daniels is set to return to the witness stand for more questioning in the donald trump hush money criminal trial. the court was off yesterday, so the defense will continue its cross-examination of the adult film actress in a new york city courtroom later this morning. on tuesday daniels described the sexual encounter she says she had with trump back in 2006. the trump denied a defense motion for a mistrial after trump's attorneys called

daniels' testimony unnecessary and prejudicial towards trump. prosecutors have indicated they plan to redirect or ask some follow-up up questions. trump defies falsifying business records. the former president also denies having any sexual encounter with daniels. joining us now nbc news and msnbc legal analyst glenn kirschner. he's a former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia. we're always grateful when he can join us. on tuesday the defense tried to paint daniels as a liar and extortionist. what more do you expect to see from the defense today? >> jonathan, i think they are far from done from attacking stormy daniels, and i think they need to be careful. you know, if defense attorneys go too hard after a witness, it

can tend to backfire. you know, it's interesting because neither stormy daniels nor karen mcdougal have anything that is directly relevant to the falsifying of business records. now, they have relevant testimony because what they're providing is evidence of sexual encounters or relationships that they had with donald trump that donald trump through his council maintained never happened. so in a very real sense, this pits stormy daniels and karen mcdougal directly against donald trump. and once the jurors make the all important determination about whether stormy daniels and karen mcdougal are telling the truth, if they conclude, yes, they're telling the truth about these encounters and relationships, that will really damage donald trump, and it will potentially damage the balance of his defense like the jurors might say to themselves, look, if he can't even tell the truth about

these dalliances, do we really believe that he knew nothing about falsifying business records to cover up these relationships to gain unfair advantage in the 2016 presidential election? so, you know, this is a tactical minefield for the defense attorneys, but i do anticipate they will continue to go right at stormy daniels as they continue their cross-examination of her. >> so we just said the prosecution plans to redirect. to your point there if the defense is attacking daniels' credibility and maybe doing so relentlessly, how does the prosecutor counter that? >> they will probably go back into details that really sort of rang true. she had some pretty excruciating detail about the setting, the circumstances, the things donald trump said. and, you know, when you think about the fact she was a 27-year-old young woman who was invited to dinner by donald

trump, he was a 60-year-old man, and when she showed up for dinner he is in his silk pajamas, i think that paints a particular picture. and even she said, you know, i felt the imbalance of power under those circumstances. it is not hard to see how there would be an imbalance of power. so i think the prosecution will try to rebuild her credibility to the extent they think it's been damaged on cross-examination and it would be up to the jurors. one interesting thing the defense attorneys argued vigorously about how damaging and how bad and how prejudicial this testimony was in seeking a mistrial. of course the judge promptly denied a motion for mistrial, but the defense attorneys were kind of proving a point. this is precisely why donald trump wanted to pay to cover it up and falsify business records to that end. >> lastly and briefly just give us your overall impression so far of daniels testimony.

has she been effective for the prosecution? >> she has. you know, people expect -- people expect witnesses to sort of come right out of central casting and deliver all lines perfectly and flawlessly. that is not the reality of prosecuting cases. you know, people are flawed. people are human. people make mistakes. people can overstate or understate. they can exaggerate. she is who she is, but, you know, by all accounts too bad we don't have cameras in the courtroom, but by all reports coming out of the courtroom, she's holding her own. and, you know, she is the flawed person she is as we are all flawed. and i always told my jurors don't expect these witnesses to perform as if they're in a movie. they're flawed. they make mistakes. they have imperfect memories, but they've sworn to tell you the truth, and we believe they're going to do that. >> nbc news and msnbc legal analyst, glenn kirschner. thank you. we hope you'll come back soon. we'll have complete coverage of the trial all day long on msnbc.

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jeer here. >> the form of the resolution is as follows, declaring the office of speaker of the house of representatives to be vacant -- >> you can hear them there. the vote on greene's motion to vacate just ten republicans sided with greene. thanking his colleagues for defeating the effort to push him out. >> i want to say that i appreciate the show of confidence from by colleagues to defeat this misguided effort. that is certainly what it was. hopefully this is the end of the personality politic and the frivolous character assassination that has defined the 118th congress. it's regrettable. it's not who we are as americans and we're better than this. in this moment the congress definitely needs a functioning congress. and that's what the overwhelming majority of the members of this body demonstrated today.

>> donald trump the leader in the republican party suggested he was opposed to the ouster though he still has his criticisms of the speaker. elsewhere on capitol hill axios is reporting senate majority leader chuck schumer may try to bring the bipartisan border bill back for a vote later this month. that's according to multiple senate democratic aids. the bill was blocked by republicans back in february following months of negotiations, and it never made it out of the senate. according to axios democrats discuss the border situation during a caucus lunch meeting yesterday. here's what schumer said afterwards. >> democrats are going to make it clear which party is working to fix our broken border and which party is conspiring to make it worse. our republican colleagues may have given up on acting on the border, but democrats have not. next up here we'll turn to sports and bring you the latest playoff action in both the nhl and nba including a dramatic second half of the garden led by

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130-121 victory in game two of the playoff series. new york now holds a 2-0 series lead when they go on the road to indianapolis for game three tomorrow night. pacers have to be kicking themselves. they've blown leads in both games so far this series. meanwhile denver nuggets star nikola jokic the most valuable player to become just the ninth three-time mvp in legal history. he finished regular season in points, rebounds and assists and led the nuggets to a tie in the western conference. but denver currently trailing the minnesota timberwolves in their second round playoff series. game three tomorrow night in indianapolis. we turn now to the nhl stanley cup playoffs and start with the second round series opener up in vancouver. stunned with three goals in the third period including two in the span of just 30 seconds to take the lead and win game one

5-4. there's the game winner right there, vancouver up 1-0. meanwhile in florida the panthers got even against the boston bruins last night, matching the franchise's largest margin of victory ever in the post-season with a 6-1 route in game two. meanwhile the former translator for shohei ohtani has agreed to pleads guilty for illegally transferring $17 million out of ohtani's account without his knowledge. 39-year-old ippei mizuhara will plead guilty to counts of bank fraud and subscribing to false tax returns that carry maximum prison sentences of 20 and three years consecutively. he'll enter his plea in the coming weeks and set to be

arraigned on may 14th. ohtani insisted he'd never bet on sports and federal prosecutors have consistently called him a victim who did not know about his interpreter's actions. time now for the weather and let's bring in meteorologist angie lassman for the forecast. how's it looking out there? >>spri has led up to the hype. a couple of tornado warnings happening in kentucky and tennessee at this time. on top of the stronger storms we've also got some heavy rain associated with those. 8 million people included in this. notice the flash flood warning from nashville to basically chattanooga, we've got heavy rain going to continue for the next couple of hours and turn to storm centered from texas to basically southern new jersey in the afternoon hours. this is the area we're watching. notice the enhanced risk does

include dallas, shreveport, major cities like montgomery, savannah as well. we're going to mostly watch for the strong winds and hail to be the biggest threat but can't rule out a couple of isolated tornados. that tornado threat is lower than we were yesterday. wave got the potential to see 75-plus mile per hour winds in some of these spots again dalilous the way to montgomery, stretching into parts of georgia as well. so we'll be concerned about that in the afternoon hours. the system will be on the move through tomorrow and that steady rain will work into parts of the north east. this is where we'll be watching for the severe threat as we get into your friday, finishing the workweek with 4 million people at risk. a smaller area and damage winds, so we're making minor improvements as far as the forecast is concerned the next couple of days but still not out of the woods yet. still ahead here on "way too early," president biden sends a new warning to israel that the

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welcome back to "way too early." it's just before 5:30 a.m. here on the east coast, 2:30 out west on this thursday morning. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. president biden says he will halt the shipment of some weapons to israel including 2,000-pound bombs if its

military invades rafah. the president made those important comments during an interview with cnn last night, saying israel's rafah operation will worsen the already dire humanitarian crisis there. >> civilians have been killed in gaza as a consanyone of those bombs and the way they go after population centers. i made it clear if they go into rafah -- they haven't gone into rafah yet. if they go into rafah i'm not supplying the weapons historically that have been used to deal with rafah, deal with that problem. we're going to continue to make sure it's secure in term of the iron dome and respond to attacks that came out of the middle east recently. >> biden's interview aired just hours after defense secretary lloyd austin publicly acknowledged the u.s. paused the delivery of thousands of bombs last week. that decision is now sparking

outrage among republicans. in a rare joint letter speaker mike johnson and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell demanded an explanation from the president saying security assistance to israel is an urgent priority. at an appropriations hearing yesterday senator lindsey graham also grilled austin about the delay. >> okay, so israel's been hit in the last few weeks by iran, hezbollah, and hamas dedicated to their destruction. and you're telling me you're going to tell them how to fight the war and what they can and can't use when everybody around them wants to kill all the jews? and you're telling me that if we with hold weapons in this fight the existential fight for the life of the jewish state it won't send the wrong signal? do you still think it was a good idea, general austin, to get out of afghanistan? >> i support the president -- >> i think you do. i think it was a disastrous

decision. if we stop weapons necessary to destroy the enemies of the state of israel in a time of great peril, we will pay a price. this is obscene. it is absurd. give israel what they need to fight the war they can't afford to lose. this is hir hiroshima and nagasaki on steroids. the president made clear defensive weapons will still be sent. it's more of the offensive weapons that will be used in rafah. joining us now congressional reporter for "the washington post" jackie almeny. he made clear this is real break with israel,one that republicans are already blasting. take us onto the hill here in terms of the republicans see this as beyond any good faith beliefs. they see this as a winning

political issue, and are democrats nervous they're going to be painted as abandoning their ally? >> it certainly elisitted mixed reviews on capitol hill. you had democrats who looked at what's been going on with a lot of alarm. but republicans, on the other hand, as we just saw lindsey graham and a slate of other republicans were outraged at the news and feel like this was a breach of assurances and bipartisan work that the administration had promised republican lawmakers when they approved of the emergency supplemental assistance that was passed. although we should clarify this is an important detail that those appropriations that were passed a few weeks ago in that emergency supplemental are not going to be affected by this pause, that just relates to certain types of variety of weapons that could be used on guided missiles to potentially

kill civilians in rafah, but republicans nevertheless were deeply troubled by this and feel like it flies in the face of the bipartisan work they've done in the past few weeks. >> the president also acknowledged the first time there's been some american made weapons that have killed civilians in gaza being used by the israeli military. there's obviously been a lot of outrage on the left including college campuses about the plight. are some democrats relieved the president at least took a moment to moderate his support for israel? >> absolutely. there have been a lot of democrats who have been increasingly critical of the administration policy over the past few months that have just gotten louder. we know the administration is supposed to deliver a report this week delivering an assessment of what it -- who exactly has been hurt by u.s. assisted weapons in israel. that is something that members are really looking out for to sort of support this moderation and this pause that biden is taking. of course they feel like it's important and a very fine

political line they're dancing here to make sure they're combating, you know, this rise of anti-semitism that we're seeing across college campuses but also supporting the protesters who are, you know, calling out israelis for committing what they believe amounts to genocide. so it's a really fine political line, but democrats are trying to walk it right now and are in favor and behind biden for what he did. >> and the president this week at his speech at the holocaust memorial made clear he's standing with israel but you can disagree with a friend. let's go back to the motion to vacate and give us the lay of the land of the aftermath as this goes down in defeat. tell us what standing mike johnson has with his colleagues and also tell us where does mtg stand? >> in the middle of all this especially with the biden administration's announcement of a potential pause and conditioning of aid, republican tensions and frustration with

johnson has been simmering. marjorie taylor greene obviously is the loudest voice, and there wasn't enough frustration to tip johnson over the edge when 11 republicans ultimately voted to continue to oust johnson, who's a very far cry from what we saw with former house speaker kevin mccarthy where democrats stepped in and help him out as part of this bargain he made to get republicans behind the emergency supplemental funding. but republicans are angry. and as you i were just talk about donald trump released a statement last night. he's been behind johnson really up until this moment and has asked marjorie taylor greene to sort of take it notch back ahead of the election, but that statement yesterday was lukewarm and milktoast than his usual statements. we'll see if johnson is able to remain in leadership. i think that really is contingent whether or not

republicans can maintain a majority. there's cleary calculus here republican need to stop the infighting in order to keep the majority and make it through november elections, and at that point i think there'll be yet another republican civil war in the house to duke it out and see who's going to take the mantle. >> a lot of republicans believe republicans are in danger of losing the house this fall. we'll see you later on "morning joe." next up here we'll go live to cnbc for an early look what's driving the day on wall street as the dow extends its winning streak. plus ftx customers are set to get their money back. we'll dig into the recovery plan the failed crypto currency exchange is now proposing. we'll be right back with all of that. s now propinosg. we'll be right back with all of that

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silvia amaro. dow futures down this morning after the index posted its sixth consecutive winning day. so how do we think wall street is shaping up this morning? >> so good morning, john. the futures suggest it could be a lower start to the trading session on wall street today. and this is after we saw a fairly muted session on wednesday. just to give you an idea 7 out of the 11 sectors ended the session in the red, and real estate actually led those losses. however, looking at the latest rating investors will be awaiting key economic data. we're getting weekly jobless claims today, and on top of that the earnings season is still under way. we're going to hear from warner bros today and let's see what they have to say. nonetheless a very busy day. >> so the failed crypto currency exchange ftx now says its can customers will be able to get their money back. tell us how. >> so there's some relief here

for ftx customers. according to a court filing almost all of them will be able to get their money back. ftx has said that it estimates it owes $11.2 billion to creditors, and at the same time the company said it has between 14.5 and 16.3 billion u.s. dollars to distribute to creditors. so this is an important development because we know ftx customers they have seen their money locked up since november 2022, so it's been a long time since they have been unable really to use this cash. >> and lastly, two media giants are teaming up to say they're going to offer a new streaming bundle to customers. tell us the details, please. >> so we heard from disney and warner bros. that they are preparing a bundle for streaming. we could see disney plus, hulu

and bunding this summer. pricing has not been disclosed, but a person familiar with the matter told cnbc this option will be offered at a discount. this is important because it comes at a time customers have complained there's too many streaming platforms and that having several subscriptions is expensive. so this could be a solution for some customers out there. >> and of course everyone was quick to race to make the jokes these bundles, well, sound a lot like cable. cnbc's silvia amaro live from london, thank you as always. next up here a group of trump allies who tried to overturn the 2020 election are now rolling out what they're deeming a voter integrity roll. that's next on "way too early." l that's next on "way too early. i saw how easily it picked up my hair every time i dried it! only takes a minute. look at that! the heavy duty cloths are extra thick, for amazing trap & lock. even for his hair.

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calling on congress to pass what they're calling an election integrity bill. they say the new legislation will prevent non-citizens from voting in u.s. elections, something that multiple studies have repeatedly shown is exceedingly rare. the measure would make it more difficult to register people to vote by requiring the verification of a u.s. passport or birth certificate. voting rights advocates note that millions of americans do not have easy access to those documents. house speaker mike johnson who's leading the effort played a pivotal role in former president trump's push to overturn the election four years ago. joining us now moynihan public scholar fellow at the city college of new york, professor christina greer. professor, good to see you this morning. of course it is hypocrisy these election deniers are calling for election integrity. but let's talk about these efforts, and are they -- should we be worried about their mechanics to prevent voters from

voting but also what it says big picture about how a significant portion of one party views the democratic process in america and their efforts to undercut it. >> yeah, jonathan, we should always be worried when people move the goal posts. but if we zoom out, we can look at republicans and recognize the vast majority of their policies just aren't in lock step with what americans want, and that's why it's more difficult for americans to have access to the ballot. we have seen this time and time again they're trying to decrease mail-in voting or whether it's trying to make it much more difficult for young people to vote or older people to vote. this is going at the heart of their foundation where only certain people are the real americans. when you look at the issue whether it's lgbtq plus rights where more and more americans are becoming inclusive and accepted, when you look at abortion which is huge issue not just in states like ohio but michigan and wisconsin where they definitely need votes, they know they're just not on the right side of history and

they're not on the right side of the ballot box, so they have to make it much more difficult for people to have access. >> president biden was in wisconsin yesterday mostly on economic issues, which polls suggest he's struggling to win over voters with. but afterwards he gave that interview and he did talk about donald trump and the next election and more or less guaranteed he won't accept the result were he to lose. how would you council the president to speak about this. because on one hand polls suggest it's the kitchen table issues going to decide this election like you mentions abortion, but democracy the president believes is at stake. how does he balance that in his messaging? >> it's really hard, jonathan, because so many americans are really worried about the bottom line. when you think about what joe biden is trying to lay out, if you have someone who believes in dictatorship, if you have someone who believes in grifting, have someone who believes in giving parts of america's economy to the highest

bidder especially to our adversaries, that is a possible issue. what will happen to labor in this country, what will happen to jobs? what will happen to our educational system for people to have prospects for jobs? joe biden is asking people to have a short-term and long-term conversation. the long-term conversation is not something we've been great as a nation. we've got a very short-term memory when we go to the ballot box, but we're literally looking at a republican candidate who's saying he'll not respect the rule of law, he'll enrich himself and his friends. he's say lg the things he's going to do to immigrants, marginalized communities, and unfortunately there's a large swath of americans who don't believe him and a large swath of americans who support him. >> in the show, showing basically a dead heat between biden and trump in a couple key battleground states. also, robert f. kennedy jr., a third-party candidate, was in the double digits, 12%, 13%.

is that real? is he actually going to pick up the votes, or is that an anger people are expressing now because they're not happy with the choices? who do you think he would hurt most? >> yeah, you know, jonathan, it's hard to say. this reminds me of 1992 with ross perot, almost 19 million votes, no electoral college votes, but affected the race for george h.w. bush. as we continue with our interventions abroad and people feel pocketbook issues at home, i think that conversation closer to october will be much more clear as to the effect of rfk jr. and the worm in his head. >> and the worm in his head. on that note, we will leave it. public scholar fellow at the city college of new york, professor christina greer, thank you, as always. up next, the house blocked marjorie taylor greene's attempt

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who pull these stunts to undermine the majority. if they're so upset about things that haven't happened, take a look in the mirror, starting with marjorie taylor greene. >> mike lawler criticizing marjorie taylor greene after she introduced the motion to remove speaker mike johnson from leadership. joining us now, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst susan del percio. she has a new opinion piece, "marjorie taylor greene's push to vacate the speaker didn't win her anything." susan, good to see you this morning. let's start there. what is mtg's future? >> i don't think it is bright. she makes it through the year. one of two things will happen. either donald trump will win and she'll be kicked out by the trumpsters because she's too much drama and chaos, or trump loses and she's regulated to the back bench. she won't shut up, but people

won't be listening to her as much because she doesn't have influence over the conference. she doesn't carry the donald trump threat. she reminds me of a sibling saying, "i'm going to tell mom if you don't do what i ask." that will be gone. >> she'll have no trouble raising money in the deep red district but who knows what her future will be from there. johnson's job is safe for now. 2024. we've been talking about the threats to democracy, the 30,000 foot issues. many pundits believe this election will be won over economic issues. the president drew a sharp contrast. look, my administration will put this plant where donald trump failed to deliver his signature promise. is this going to resonate with voters, particularly in the midwest. >> it will in those states. it was it is a great message. whoever planned that event did a great job. again, the president still has to recognize that he can't show

his frustration that people aren't accepting that we have a good economy. people are feeling things differently. it's not just the regular cost of inflation. it is home loans, car loans, all of that. it is costing the american people a lot. they aren't comfortable, necessarily, saying, oh, we'll just go again with this guy. as far as the democracy threat goes, i think that joe biden did something very interesting yesterday. saying donald trump will create havoc if he loses. i think he needs to kind of own that, like, dialogue, if you will, putting it square on donald trump, that, yeah, if something happens, it's on him. you really want that to happen again? do you really want to see a january 6th happen again? because this is who you would be electing, this kind of person. >> we showed some polls earlier that show that robert f. kennedy

is pulling double digits in places like pennsylvania. for a while, he was a celebrated environmental activist. >> oh, yeah. >> he's had a transformation, let's say. where do you think right now he is drawing most of his support? in other words, who does he pose a bigger threat to, trump or biden? >> right now, it depends on where you're looking, frankly. he's pulling a lot of support in swing states from younger voters. that's where they're turning their undecided to when you start asking them about third-party candidates versus the head-to-head. at the same time, he could do a lot of damage to trump with older voters. in other states, they tend to poll him. that's where i think he is picking up the national dialogue of taking away from trump. but in the swing states right now, the danger is for biden. >> lastly, very briefly, the president's message on israel yesterday, how do you think that'll play domestically? >> i don't think it matters that

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